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Highly biased Child Protective Services interview with father in custody battle

HiddenDjinn

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
I've followed this guy's story. All allegations were dropped before court(this is upstate New York, by the way,) yet he doesn't see his daughter and hasn't in over a year.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I hope this carnage is just a dramatization. It seems so scripted & uniformly
outrageous, & the gal lecturing the guy is so dumb, presumptuous & dictatorial.
But in any event, it suggests something striking. Look at all the examples feminists
love to trot out as examples of "male privilege", & yet they're unaware of their own
many tremendous privileges. This myopia is my main beef with "feminism".
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This wasn't a dramatization. This was all very real.
Oh, dear....we're doomed!
When the corpulent one talked about the sugar & calories in the zero calorie pop, I thought such stupidity
could only be scripted. I'll bet this government employee is just the tip of the iceberg (no pun intended).
 
I hope this carnage is just a dramatization. It seems so scripted & uniformly
outrageous, & the gal lecturing the guy is so dumb, presumptuous & dictatorial.
But in any event, it suggests something striking. Look at all the examples feminists
love to trot out as examples of "male privilege", & yet they're unaware of their own
many tremendous privileges. This myopia is my main beef with "feminism".

I thought it was fake as well. However, it turns out that it is real.

It's pretty obvious that right from the get-go these two women were out to find fault with everything he did.

Dad asks his daughter about what's making his daughter feel sick? He's a bad parent for violating her privacy. I'll bet that if he didn't ask,he would have been a bad parent for "not caring".
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
He only "wonders" what kind of pill his daughter is taking when she's having heart attack symptoms? He doesn't take her to a hospital..His "big concern" apparently is taping this interview..And dad is giving her "zero calorie" coke..(artificial sugar) to help with her weight.

This dude is a nut..I can not believe you would use this as some sort of mans 'right".
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Here is a video that shows just how biased the system can be.

This video is the reason women get custody more.The guy in the video is a complete moron.He actually sounds stoned..But if he;s not? Even worse.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He only "wonders" what kind of pill his daughter is taking when she's having heart attack symptoms? He doesn't take her to a hospital..His "big concern" apparently is taping this interview..And dad is giving her "zero calorie" coke..(artificial sugar) to help with her weight.
This dude is a nut..I can not believe you would use this as some sort of mans 'right".
Based upon his description of how she felt, & how it changed, it struck me as reasonable to inquire about what medication she was taking. A trip to the hospital seems an over-reaction. As for the men's right issue, men fare poorly in child custody issues. Note how he was kept in the dark about the medication & possible side effects he should watch for. It smacks more of limiting his interaction with his daughter, than watching out for the child's welfare.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I can see why the woman that was stupid enough to have a child with this man left him and took the kid.He literally sounds like a person who just finished smoking a bud out of a can with holes poked in it talking about a 7 year old girl.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Based upon his description of how she felt, & how it changed, it struck me as reasonable to inquire about what medication she was taking. A trip to the hospital seems an over-reaction. As for the men's right issue, men fare poorly in child custody issues.

If you think (seriously) your child is having a heart attack? You don't think..hmmm MOM ..child support..You take your child to the hospital..and by the way obviously she wasn't having a heart attack..which makes him a drama queen..
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Based upon his description of how she felt, & how it changed, it struck me as reasonable to inquire about what medication she was taking.

After the fact ..that he thought his daughter might be having a heart attack..which he did NOTHING about...what if she was having a heart attack? Child would have died and dad would have blamed mom????
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Yeah!! Ma daughter acted like she was having a heart attack! ...So I weighed her and gave her a diet coke!Noticed she had gained weight..Yeah ..like she is 10 and weighs 110 lbs..So I just kept weighing her and giving her diet coke man ..DUDE!That's ma daughter! Its obvious shes gaining weight..So I just kept weighing her even though I only had 8 hours a week wit her..and gave her diet coke!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah!! Ma daughter acted like she was having a heart attack! ...So I weighed her and gave her a diet coke!Noticed she had gained weight..Yeah ..like she is 10 and weighs 110 lbs..So I just kept weighing her and giving her diet coke man ..DUDE!That's ma daughter! Its obvious shes gaining weight..So I just kept weighing her even though I only had 8 hours a week wit her..and gave her diet coke!
After the fact ..that he thought his daughter might be having a heart attack..which he did NOTHING about...what if she was having a heart attack? Child would have died and dad would have blamed mom????
If you think (seriously) your child is having a heart attack? You don't think..hmmm MOM ..child support..You take your child to the hospital..and by the way obviously she wasn't having a heart attack..which makes him a drama queen..
Criminy, you're on a roll.
I think we disagree about the appropriateness of what the father did, the appropriateness
of what the government types said, & what his role ought to be in the kid's life.
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Hmmn well he certainly should be encouraging more healthy dietary habits - the CPS has the right of that.

However his actions in terms of attempting to monitor her health and find out what medication she was on after he became aware there was an issue was an entirely appropriate one and her mother is a fool for not telling him - a fool who has put her daughter in a situation where side effects of the medication that she is on (all medicine has them) might not be dealt with appropriately. For example someone witnessing a side effect might over react and call an ambulence or freak out - or they might be dismissive of it not realising that it is a warning sign that she was having an adverse reaction (his parallel with a child care center was spot on). If the court WAS stupid enough to say he has no right to know what medication a person under his supervision is on or side effects to expect or to be wary of then that is insane as he has a duty of care towards his daughter (and I think from the video that the CPS woman is merely stating that no specific ruling on his right to know was made but she decided to interpret that to mean he had no right to know as opposed to it had not been ruled on).
 
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HiddenDjinn

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
DallasApple,
Please stop trolling this DIR. You're coming across as a hysterical extremist and we're laughing at you.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Wow....

What the heck.

And the mother didnt tell him anything? What on Earth?

She doesnt have a court order to share that information? Oh well, thats beautiful, why care about your child's wellbeing if you dont have a court order telling you about it detail by detail? Hw could she be so irresponsible as to not the man the child was under medication? What??

Wow...
 

Galen.Iksnudnard

Active Member
It's rather disturbing that he feels the need to tape people without their knowledge because of his own insecurity. The fact that he did so really makes me question his integrity and honesty, not to mention that he cut out parts of the proceedings to make these women look bad.

Besides the man sounds like a drunk. He babbles incoherently and keeps on interrupting the social workers, who are trained professionals.

Nope, this guy does't deserve custody.

The fact that this is probably the worst that the average man has had to deal with (and it's not like it's totally undeserved) really casts some doubt on the whole "masculist" idea.
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
This was cut for youtube, that hardly means that would be how he would present such were it used as evidence.

The woman (left of screen) in particular is incompetent, incapable of comprehending that he has a duty of care to look after his daughter particularly while she is in his care and that therefore his efforts to identify whether or not there was a health issue (which could have complications while his daughter was in his care) was an entirely valid one and not merely that he had some 'right' to know, but rather that he has a legal responsibility to know such that he can provide appropriate care and indeed information in the event of an emergency. This worker is simply incompetent.

In this thread we are told that because he didnt take her to hospital he is an unfit parent (a nut, a moron, a stoner) - the woman on the left reasons away the heart pain and says she would have done exactly the same thing he did in terms of getting her to calm down and stop dancing to get her heart rate down. Yet we didnt hear the same comment applied to HER though, did we? No, nor is her reasoning on the matter ever called into questioning. There is an element of confirmatory bias here.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's rather disturbing that he feels the need to tape people without their knowledge because of his own insecurity. The fact that he did so really makes me question his integrity and honesty, not to mention that he cut out parts of the proceedings to make these women look bad.
If an injustice is being committed, to document it is a great idea.
This "insecurity" barb sounds more like your attempt to find fault
with him, than with the system.

Besides the man sounds like a drunk. He babbles incoherently and keeps on interrupting the social workers, who are trained professionals.
He doesn't sound drunk to me.
"Trained professionals"? I suppose they are....by government standards.
 
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