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So your proof that the shroud is right is that the marks are from the type of whip that you know they used; and you know what whip they used from the marks on the shroud?
No. It doesn't. The skin splits open. Later strikes hit the open skin and split the subcutanious tissue. Still later striked open up the muscle. In the end, the back looks like shredded tissue paper. You cannot count the strikes on teh skin because the skin is in torn strips. The strikes overlap.
What knowledge? You've offered ZERO susbstantiation... you just keep making more and more and more claims. I've shown you why your claims are impossible. I've shown you what a flagrum looks like and why it doesn't leave "extensions"; I've explained the effect actual sourges have and why you can't count marks that high (especially on the low-resolution shroud). There are many more problems (related to the way wounds heal and the three+ days between the scourging and shroud); but they get more technical.
Almost all scholars are in agreement that the TF is either an outright forgery or altered text.
Heheheh .
And there it is!!
Odd that, in 15 years I`ve yet to find a topic the internet wouldn`t give a lot of free info on.
In Egyptian myth, Osiris was resurrected. Another god who died and was resurrected was the Babylonian Tammuz, who became a popular deity among the Semitic peoples, and most likely influenced the Syrian myth of Adonis, another god who died and was resurrected. The worship of Adonis spread to Greece, and today we usually think of him in connection with Greek mythology.Cynic said:
If the Persian myth of Mithra is a historical fact, then the first four gospels are nothing but an expanded version of the myth with added teaching of possibly historically existing person given the name of Jesus. But again according to this Earl Doherty and others, Jesus may never even existed as a historical person.MidnightBlue said:In Egyptian myth, Osiris was resurrected. Another god who died and was resurrected was the Babylonian Tammuz, who became a popular deity among the Semitic peoples, and most likely influenced the Syrian myth of Adonis, another god who died and was resurrected. The worship of Adonis spread to Greece, and today we usually think of him in connection with Greek mythology.
However, the myth most similar to Christian beliefs about Jesus is the legend of Mithra. Mithra was a Persian deity, the son of Ahura Mazda -- the Supreme Lord -- and the virgin Anihita. Mithra was born in a cave on 25 December, and was venerated by shepherds. He had twelve disciples, celebrated a last supper with them, died for the sins of mankind, and rose from the dead. He became the central figure of Mithraism, which also borrowed from other traditions.
Mithraism was a popular religion throughout the Roman Empire from the 1st century BCE to the 4th century CE. Its followers valued sexual propriety and self-control, celebrated Sunday as a holy day, practised baptism, and celebrated a memorial meal of bread and wine. The similarities between Mithraism and Christianity were so striking that Tertullian believed Mithraism was a counterfeit Christianity designed by the devil to lead people astray. Mithraism was finally outlawed -- along with all other non-Christian religions -- by the Christian emperor Theodosius at the end of the 4th century, but continued to survive for at least another century.
However, while it's interesting to note the parallels between Christianity and other myths, the mythical content of Christianity is one thing, and the existence of Jesus is another. If Christian myth isn't factual, that hardly proves that Jesus never existed. We know now that most of the popular legends about George Washington aren't factual, but we don't conclude that Washington never existed.
