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Baphomet

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Today, I looked a lot into the Baphomet, and got really close in its features... It made me remember of something I was afraid of as a child. I had always had a fear of a woman, that was pitch black with dark brown around the black, and a hairy head, that was part human part animal, and I don't remember specifically what animal, but the legs of her was hairy and had hooves, all of her was black.

I remember she had a black version of the Marge Simpson hair and she acted like an animal.

I never seen her, but always feared of seeing her...

Just learning the Baphomet was also a female, it made me look into comparison of these two... I think they are very similar.

Is it an odd coincidence?
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
Twig pentagram is right, Baphomet is often used to represent balance. Male, female, light, dark, angelic, demonic, spiritual and carnal.

Childhood fear of something not quite human is fairly common, I wouldn't think too much of it personally ;)
 

NeedingGnosisNow

super-human
baphomet was the mysterious god of the templars. the freemasons may be a branch of the templars but they believe in the great architect of the universe. some gnostics think that the creator god(the demiurge) may be satan. funny how things tie together sometimes
 

Tellurian

Active Member
The information I read stated that the baphomet was the original holy grail. The Templars were digging for hidden treasures at the temple mount in Jerusalem when they supposedly discovered the bones of the biblical Jesus. They took these bones to the Pope who told the Templars to keep quiet about their discovery, and the Pope would give the Templars special dispensations. With these dispensations the Templars became very wealthy, and the Templars created a special symbol of their discovery of the baphomet skull of Jesus, and that symbol became known as the skull and crossbones, which later became associated with pirates.

When the French king and the Pope later turned against the Templars and had many of them executed, there were some who escaped with the Templar skull of Jesus, and the holy grail legends of the baphomet skull of Jesus began to appear. The Catholic church tried to suppress these stories by turning the holy grail into a drinking cup instead of a skull, and tried to turn the baphomet skull into some kind of monster.
 

Sylvan

Unrepentant goofer duster
Haha I like the idea that the holy grail was originally Jesus's skull as a goblet. Similar to the skull bowls aghoris drink out of.
Of course you can guess who the original grail skull belonged to... someone a little older..
 

Mehr Licht

Ave Sophia
I wonder when the first baphomet image was written / painted? How far back do they go? I've heard that Eliphas Levi is responsible for the image we often think of when we hear the term:

220px-Baphomet.png
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I wonder when the first baphomet image was written / painted? How far back do they go? I've heard that Eliphas Levi is responsible for the image we often think of when we hear the term:

220px-Baphomet.png

It's difficult to say really. You're absolutely correct that the goat headed image of Baphomet seems to have started with Eliphas Levi. Unfortunately it's very difficult to find reliable information on Baphomet prior to him as there's simply too much in the way of conspiracy theories, fear mongering and bias to confidently say where the image arose.
I have heard for example that the Knight's Templar were accused of worshiping an idol called Baphomet, but I couldn't say whether this is in fact historically accurate (even in the form of Medieval Church propaganda in the same vein as the witches' black mass) or simply conjecture.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I have heard for example that the Knight's Templar were accused of worshiping an idol called Baphomet, but I couldn't say whether this is in fact historically accurate (even in the form of Medieval Church propaganda in the same vein as the witches' black mass) or simply conjecture.
When I looked into this allegation some years back I found that every Templar "confession" that included Baphomet was obtained under torture and they all disagree in the details.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
When I looked into this allegation some years back I found that every Templar "confession" that included Baphomet was obtained under torture and they all disagree in the details.

That sounds about right for the time period. You find the same with a lot of accused witches and werewolves in Europe.
 

Mehr Licht

Ave Sophia
I've read in a few places that the term may even be a corruption of the word Mahomet. The templars were accused of fraternizing with Muslims too I believe. Medieval Europeans often thought that Muslims were into worshiping graven images or idols. Kind of bizzare seeing as how they are one of the more strictly anti-iconic religions around.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I've read in a few places that the term may even be a corruption of the word Mahomet. The templars were accused of fraternizing with Muslims too I believe. Medieval Europeans often thought that Muslims were into worshiping graven images or idols. Kind of bizzare seeing as how they are one of the more strictly anti-iconic religions around.

It's entirely possible. The Templars were powerful and so it's feasible that they would be persecuted to prevent growth in power. This was also during a time of war between Christians and Muslims so demonizing Muslims by claiming they were idol worshipers is also entirely possible.
Like I say, I'm not happy to say this was definitely the case as it's an area surrounded by conjecture as well as being one of the areas I have a somewhat limited knowledge about.
 
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