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Do you mean on your tax return?chasev3 said:Need some assistance with a question. When one receives their taxes... are you support to give a 10th of your taxes to God?
Druidus said:I guess if you want to. But how? Give it to the church?
A better method would be to give to charities, instead of churches. Give to the the needy, the hungry, the plundered, the endangered, the fearful, the sick.
We don't have to. There is no commandment under the New Testament that says we must. But the question raised is this: Should we want to?chasev3 said:When one receives their taxes... are you support to give a 10th of your taxes to God?
Since tithing is not a scriptural command, you can give what you want. Our giving is to be from the heart. Also, Jesus said that when we feed, clothe, shelter the least of God's creations, we are also doing so to Him. That tells me that if I choose to send my money to tsunami victims, homeless shelters, etc. then my money is going to God.chasev3 said:Need some assistance with a question. When one receives their taxes... are you support to give a 10th of your taxes to God?
Hey, Melody. So we're going to debate tithing again, huh? Get ready to have your buttons pushed!Melody said:Since tithing is not a scriptural command, you can give what you want. Our giving is to be from the heart. Also, Jesus said that when we feed, clothe, shelter the least of God's creations, we are also doing so to Him. That tells me that if I choose to send my money to tsunami victims, homeless shelters, etc. then my money is going to God.
First, the Pharisees were Jews and were to tithe under the covenant. However, this passage has nothing to do with tithing. It has to do with hypocrisy. They tithed and followed one part of the law, but disregarded other parts. We are not Jews and the covenant was not with the Gentiles. There is a verse in the NT which states that the Gentiles were not under obligation to obey the covenant and I will find it when I have the chance.Katzpur said:In Matthew 23:23, Jesus is recorded as having chastised the Pharisees for paying tithes but not having obeyed the more important parts of the law. He said, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."
Again, please show me where tithing is a "commandment". As I've said repeatedly. The bible speaks of Abraham giving 10% *once*. The bible speaks of Joshua making a "vow" to give God 10%. This was not required by God but was something Joshua promised to do. If you choose to believe that you are required to obey the law of tithing in Leviticus 27:30, logic says you must also follow the other laws found in Leviticus (e.g. the food laws in Leviticus 11).Katzpur said:The scriptures also speak of "offerings," frequently within the same verse as "tithes." These are not one and the same. TIthing is a commandment. We are to return to the Lord 10% of all we receive.
Holy Cow! Of course it has to do with tithing! It specifically mentions tithing. Sure, Jesus was condemning the Pharisees for their hypocrasy, but He did so by mentioning a specific commandment.Melody said:First, the Pharisees were Jews and were to tithe under the covenant. However, this passage has nothing to do with tithing. It has to do with hypocrisy. They tithed and followed one part of the law, but disregarded other parts. We are not Jews and the covenant was not with the Gentiles. There is a verse in the NT which states that the Gentiles were not under obligation to obey the covenant and I will find it when I have the chance.
Again, please show me where tithing is a "commandment". As I've said repeatedly. The bible speaks of Abraham giving 10% *once*. The bible speaks of Joshua making a "vow" to give God 10%. This was not required by God but was something Joshua promised to do. If you choose to believe that you are required to obey the law of tithing in Leviticus 27:30, logic says you must also follow the other laws found in Leviticus (e.g. the food laws in Leviticus 11).
Once? Well, the KJV mentions tithing by name 41 times. If those who held the priesthood were commanded to collect tithes from the people, (as described in Hebrews 7) how can you argue that we are not commanded to give tithes? (I know... you're just going to reiterate that this law was for the Jews only.)
So am I, and I believe you're wrong. I, too, give from my heart. That's the "offerings" part that is given in addition to the "tithing" part.I am a Christian who follows the NT law of Jesus Christ. Nowhere is tithing mentioned, although He does say that we are to give from the heart.
I know how you feel about this topic, Melody, but it looks to me an awfully lot like you're trying to justify not living this commandment. For someone whose conscience is clear, you sure do seem to be putting a lot of energy into proving that this law was somehow rescinded by Jesus Christ. His Church needs funds to be able to operate. I can't, for the life of me, see why anyone would begrudge God 1/10th of all He has given them.