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The Validity of the Catholic Church

Pah

Pah

Uber all member
:) I'm glad you liked it.

But validity, of course, is measured against a standard. The Catholic Church has four standards of what is "true" and none of them appear before the Bible was written. Most of them are artifacts created by councils of men. Today's RCC shows little resemblence to the various "positions" the church adopted during it's history. Now, if the bible hasn't changed since the earliest complete documents, it must appear that Biblical standards, at least, have been adulterated by the human church.

I'm afraid to say contrary to your jest, my posts are readily matched against history and logic - not so the RCC.

-pah-
 
Christ Michael

Christ Michael

Member
dan said:
Is the Catholic Church the true church of Christ?

If so, which one?

If not, why not?

Did Peter really pass off the authority of the Church in a successive chain all the way to Constantine?

Did Christ actually promise Peter the Church would never fall?

Is there a church that is attacked more than the Catholic Church in this forum? (yes)

Why do people like Led Zepellin?
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The concept of Jesus is still alive in the advanced religions of the world. Paul's Christian church is the socialized and humanized shadow of what Jesus intended the kingdom of heaven to be--and what it most certainly will yet become. Paul and his successors partly transferred the issues of eternal life from the individual to the church. Christ thus became the head of the church rather than the elder brother of each individual believer in the Father's family of the kingdom. Paul and his contemporaries applied all of Jesus' spiritual implications regarding himself and the individual believer to the church as a group of believers; and in doing this, they struck a deathblow to Jesus' concept of the divine kingdom in the heart of the individual believer.



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And so, for centuries, the Christian church has labored under great embarrassment because it dared to lay claim to those mysterious powers and privileges of the kingdom, powers and privileges which can be exercised and experienced only between Jesus and his spiritual believer brothers. And thus it becomes apparent that membership in the church does not necessarily mean fellowship in the kingdom; one is spiritual, the other mainly social.


Mistake not! there is in the teachings of Jesus an eternal nature which will not permit them forever to remain unfruitful in the hearts of thinking men. The kingdom as Jesus conceived it has to a large extent failed on earth; for the time being, an outward church has taken its place; but you should comprehend that this church is only the larval stage of the thwarted spiritual kingdom, which will carry it through this material age and over into a more spiritual dispensation where the Master's teachings may enjoy a fuller opportunity for development. Thus does the so-called Christian church become the cocoon in which the kingdom of Jesus' concept now slumbers. The kingdom of the divine brotherhood is still alive and will eventually and certainly come forth from this long submergence, just as surely as the butterfly eventually emerges as the beautiful unfolding of its less attractive creature of metamorphic development.


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I think the above applies to ALL CHURCHES and not just the Catholic Church !!


Cheers
 
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trishtrish10

Active Member
i believe the prophesy that the church will be united by 2021, the protestants will be the evangilizers, the catholics the teachers, and the orthodox the mystics.
 
Linus

Linus

Well-Known Member
trishtrish10 said:
i believe the prophesy that the church will be united by 2021, the protestants will be the evangilizers, the catholics the teachers, and the orthodox the mystics.
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Just wondering, where did this prophecy come from? and who prophecied it?
 
Ardhanariswar

Ardhanariswar

I'm back!
2021? wow. why then? why not some odd multiple of 7?

ill make a prophecy, by the end of this year, the current pope will pass away, three new popes will come to power and one of them will be BLACK.

hows that?
 
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trishtrish10

Active Member
indeed the francis cardinal arinze from nigeria is a prime candidate to succeed Pope John Paul II. ure prophecy that the pope will die is false as it is an evil prophecy. it says in proverbs that false prophets predict doom and gloom.
 
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dan

Well-Known Member
Actually, authorities high up in the Catholic church think the new Pope will come from either Argentina or Brazil. Que barbaridad!
 
Ceridwen018

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
There will be terrible thunderstorms tonight and Old Man Smith's tree will get hit and fall down in his yard....aw crap, am I a false prophet now too?
 
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