I just found a rebuttal
http://chriscarrollsmith.blogspot.com/2008/12/sheum-in-book-of-Mormon.html
From the readers comments from the site and the article linked http://chriscarrollsmith.blogspot.com/2 ... ormon.html
refuting Sheum is a good answer to the entire issue.
Ben Clarke said...
I am doing this as a serious experiment, so please help me out here. I have a Mormon who is so believing he would continue in his testimony even if the Angel Moroni came to him in his own bedroom late at night and testified to him that Joseph Smith lied and the Book of Mormon is false.
He...
What offends me? Buying a book I want really, really, REALLY badly, and then it being too difficult to understand.......
Also buying a book from Amazon.com and it being only half the book, the first half and them never telling you about that. Pay full price for half a book?! Why not just sell...
Interesting point as well. You guys have had a great discussion! What little I know about Paul is his adamant insistence of the reality of his conversion. Yes he would have loved to ground that experience in Hebrew scriptures, but on the other hand, his experience simply took precedent. He did...
That isn't a quote from Jesus saying we HAVE to believe in one God. We are not forced to believe anything. Jesus never did say we have to believe in God, there is always the option not to, but with consequences. And the scripture most certainly says God so loved the world that he sent his only...
Jesus has NEVER preached you HAVE TO BELIEVE anything. Crimany for all that, we have no idea what Jesus actually said since everything we have of him is from remembrances of later writers. He never wrote anything except in the sand once, and that didn't survive, so we have nothing to go on.
So, how do we tell what is true in scripture and what is false? Which parts of the New Testament would you take out? I mean, if it ain't true, it shouldn't be in the Bible should it? Shall we eliminate Titus and Ephesians, and 1 and 2 Corinthians? Which ones aren't true and valid, and how do we...
So Paul isn't part of the scripture? Does it matter who in the scripture we quote? You sure seem to use him for your own interpretation, why can't the rest of us? You make an unnecessary and unrealistic division between Paul and Jesus, which I used to do at one time. So, IS Paul valid as...
And it was definitely part of Paul's soteriology that we live so as to have Christ in us as well. His conversion definitely turned things around for him...