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    The Science of Linguistics Confirms the Book of Mormon Authenticity

    Not if it's the two broken hands on it that is broken Ha! That is a terrific response.
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    The Science of Linguistics Confirms the Book of Mormon Authenticity

    I just found a rebuttal http://chriscarrollsmith.blogspot.com/2008/12/sheum-in-book-of-Mormon.html From the readers comments from the site and the article linked http://chriscarrollsmith.blogspot.com/2 ... ormon.html refuting Sheum is a good answer to the entire issue. Ben Clarke said...
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    The Science of Linguistics Confirms the Book of Mormon Authenticity

    I am doing this as a serious experiment, so please help me out here. I have a Mormon who is so believing he would continue in his testimony even if the Angel Moroni came to him in his own bedroom late at night and testified to him that Joseph Smith lied and the Book of Mormon is false. He...
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    What Offends You?

    What offends me? Buying a book I want really, really, REALLY badly, and then it being too difficult to understand....... Also buying a book from Amazon.com and it being only half the book, the first half and them never telling you about that. Pay full price for half a book?! Why not just sell...
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    What scriptures was Paul referring to in 1st Corinthians 15:3-4?

    Interesting point as well. You guys have had a great discussion! What little I know about Paul is his adamant insistence of the reality of his conversion. Yes he would have loved to ground that experience in Hebrew scriptures, but on the other hand, his experience simply took precedent. He did...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    I find it amusing how difficult it is for people to actually allow the scripture to say and mean what it says and means.
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    Interfering with 'another person's faith'?

    Judging from this thread, I'd say things are getting figured out....:)
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    So Jesus is not God?

    That obviously has you terrified doesn't it....Lol......
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    So Jesus is not God?

    So, since scripture is literally about what others have said (no exceptions) just how do we go about this?
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    So Jesus is not God?

    That isn't a quote from Jesus saying we HAVE to believe in one God. We are not forced to believe anything. Jesus never did say we have to believe in God, there is always the option not to, but with consequences. And the scripture most certainly says God so loved the world that he sent his only...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    Jesus has NEVER preached you HAVE TO BELIEVE anything. Crimany for all that, we have no idea what Jesus actually said since everything we have of him is from remembrances of later writers. He never wrote anything except in the sand once, and that didn't survive, so we have nothing to go on.
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    So Jesus is not God?

    So, how do we tell what is true in scripture and what is false? Which parts of the New Testament would you take out? I mean, if it ain't true, it shouldn't be in the Bible should it? Shall we eliminate Titus and Ephesians, and 1 and 2 Corinthians? Which ones aren't true and valid, and how do we...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    Sigh......your vehemence is entirely silly. I am trying to have a conversation. Why the intensity and anger and ad hominim?
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    So Jesus is not God?

    So Paul isn't part of the scripture? Does it matter who in the scripture we quote? You sure seem to use him for your own interpretation, why can't the rest of us? You make an unnecessary and unrealistic division between Paul and Jesus, which I used to do at one time. So, IS Paul valid as...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    And it was definitely part of Paul's soteriology that we live so as to have Christ in us as well. His conversion definitely turned things around for him...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    But, realistically, that in itself does not mean Jesus wasn't God. there could be reasons for his denial, such as hiding his identity, as he did with the Messiah idea. So that's not a good ground to say Jesus isn't God. He was, after all exalted entirely with the fullness of the Godhead...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    Lol.....touche amigo, touche.....
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    So Jesus is not God?

    Have ye not read and understood the scripture where God appears as a still small voice, not in the grander, greater lightning or mighty magnificent earthquake? God appears in many diverse ways... it is simply not the fullness of God compared to Enoch's transformation astonishingly portrayed in...
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    The Backstory to Jesus's Atonement

    The Backstory to Jesus’s Atonement While the New Testament can be gleaned (and ought to) for the basis of Jesus’s atonement, the theme itself, from the Early Jewish (were they Christian yet?) in the New Testament (hereafter NT) comes from their scriptures, the Old Testament (hereafter OT)...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    The Greek Pleroma means just what it says, Pleroma, the fullness. As the Expositor's Greek Testament notes, "In that dwelling lies the possibility of our growing in moral excellence on to the very limit of all that is in God Himself...to be filled with all spiritual excellence even to the...
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