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    Moral Relativists

    The Abolition of Man appendix: 1. The Law of General Beneficence (a) negative 'I have not slain men.' (Ancient Egyptian. From the Confession of the Righteous Soul, 'Book of the Dead'. v. Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics [=ERE], vol. v, p.478) 'Do not murder.' (Ancient Jewish...
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    Moral Relativists

    ****************************************************************************************************************** Life has become increasingly busier for me (Job, Masters, personal projects) and thus, I must redraw from these boards for quite a while (I can hear the collective hurrah)...
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    Moral Relativists

    Culture is a broad thing. Different cultures can have commonalities. You are equating things way too high level. It's like saying all linear equations are the same... they are in certain aspects, but the details are completely different (and the composite of these details can lead to many...
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    hehe. Miscommunication, galore. Yes, I wasn't disagreeing with that. I was disagreeing with the statement that morality was not rational, which you said was simply an observation. I agree that some cultures have differences in what they perceive to be moral. Good call on the choice of...
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    Moral Relativists

    Which anthropological research? There is a lot of it. I can't explain it with any tools you would find valid (though, I don't know what is necessary valid for the metaphysical). First I became a Christian after a certain amount of rational precepts, then I began to believe in the only...
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    Moral Relativists

    Right, the first post linked to that one right before, I think. Where I said: "IMO, also outside of community. A foundation in itself."
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    Moral Relativists

    I don't think the metaphysical leaves reality. Maybe certain set of physical reality, not existence as a whole. Reality is the set of everything (arguing semantics). As you can see my religion is Christian, so naturally the judeo-christian God. I could go in to why I became an agnostic while...
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    Right, I can prove that as much as the next guy, which is why I stated it was my "opinion." As in a claim based on correlative evidence (not necessarily causal. I can't prove that).
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    Hmm. I don't know if I believe that. We've had some posts back and forth, some of which your sarcasm would indicate a personal vestment in the discussion, the belies this seemingly unattached sentiment you are expressing. However, who knows you best, besides yourself? Can't argue with that...
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    Moral Relativists

    One of the basic foundations. The "self evident" things to those who explore deeply (not exactly self evident to those who swallow their cultural beliefs). If you want to get very metaphysical, God's nature. Any thing "evil' is counter to God's nature.
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    Moral Relativists

    IMO, also out side of community. It is a foundation in itself.
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    Moral Relativists

    An observation that is surrounded by assumptions, which makes it a stance. You can not definitively say morality is not rational. There may be some observations that correlate to this, but lack of rationality is not necessarily the causality. Therefore that is a claim, not an observation...
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    Moral Relativists

    Also, I said "generally" when referencing muslims with female circumcision, as the majority of religious discussions I have had, tend in that direction. I realize other countries have practiced it. It was constantly brought up by a Persian professor I had back in college. Believe me, I know...
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    Moral Relativists

    Disparage? I didn't belittle, I just think it is incorrect. If that were belittling, than every thing you say is wrong, is belittling as well. I was giving my reasons, nothing more. I don't think they are "stupid" or "lesser" if they can not get out side of their system. I think it actually...
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    Ah, I see. Yeah, that would be frustrating! I was more trying to attack the philosophy from a different angle.
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