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My definition of worship is making a bargain with a being more powerful than you to get something that you want that you cannot get yourself, and in return, you give them prayers/rituals/sacrifices.
Tht to me is childish in the extreme.
A lover wants nothing more than to be in the presence of his Beloved. When the Beloved is God, that state of existence is worship.
Regards,
Scott
So, worship for you does not incorporate a higher being, such as God?
Put me down for this definition too.Worship for me is rejoicing in being. It is honoring existence.
Looking outward, we see only the reflection of our soul. "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled" (Titus 1:15)That's a complicated one! Is there anything higher than my own existence? When I pray to God, am I just praying to a reflection?
I don't expect anything from GOD but I would be interested in knowing why GOD would require worship or what GOD expects from our worship?So, no one expects anything when they worship God?
One of the more childish definitions I have seen.My definition of worship is making a bargain with a being more powerful than you to get something that you want that you cannot get yourself, and in return, you give them prayers/rituals/sacrifices.
But not necessarily invalid.One of the more childish definitions I have seen.
I recently had a conversation with a friend about this very topic. He suggested that it is the mark of "juvenile spirituality" to approach a relationship with God with a "when you're good to Daddy, Daddy's good to you" attitude. He argued that a adoration-in-hopes-of-reward relationship was the simplest possible relationship one could have with God. More mature believers, he argued, offered God their love and obedience and glorified Him without expectation of reward.Without trying to offend you, what do you get out of worshipping God?
If you do not expect him to do anything for you, and your worship will do nothing for him, what is the point of this practice, then?
I doubt most religious people would agree with it.But not necessarily invalid.
I think it is actually a fairly accurate depiction of worship for more animistic rather than theistic religions. Admittedly, such religions do not represent the majority anymore, but before believers began striving for communion with the divine, they worshipped the divine in order to appease and bargain with it.I doubt most religious people would agree with it.
Because rojse probably has never actually worshiped something, he cannot understand what it means, and this is apparent in his definition.
I think the whole sacrifice the virgin to the volcano thing has died out.I think it is actually a fairly accurate depiction of worship for more animistic rather than theistic religions. Admittedly, such religions do not represent the majority anymore, but before believers began striving for communion with the divine, they worshipped the divine in order to appease and bargain with it. However, I think you may be correct; Rojse seems to be assuming that all (or the average) believer today seeks to get something from God rather than have a relationship with God, and that is not accurate. (Although I do suspect that many individuals attempt to have a relationship and get something out of God.)