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What will be an atheist's answer ?

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
What will be an atheist's answer ?
The fantasy characters in your head can say anything you want them to.

I don't think any real theist would say what you suggested and that anyone in that situation, theist or atheist, would say the same kind of things, depending on their actual individual circumstances.

I find it a little disturbing that your first consideration around the issues of poverty is what the victims think about gods. Maybe, instead of asking them pointless theological questions, you should how to help improve their worldly circumstances.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
What about the person do who don't have any family ?

I did say "me", my family. Such a person surely would wish to pull themselves out of poverty. Sure it's not always possible but that would be the dream
 

chinu

chinu
Please tell me you aren't saying that the only reason for people being poor is because they are bad people.
It is possible that a rich person can be a sad person, it is also possible that poor person can be a happy person.
Bad people are always sad people.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Being a billionaire doesn't mean he/she is happy too. A billionaire can also be a cancer patient at the same time.

Yes. I was just addressing a perception I've observed to be common throughout society.

To me religion means re-union with from where we all started the journey of life in the biginning.
Re-union is true goal of a true religion. But, yes a reasonable amount of material-wealth is also required to pass a life until there's a re-union. But, once there's a re-union. Nothing is required thereafter.

In that context, it would seem that material wealth is of little to no importance, except the bare necessities to get one through life. When you speak of "re-union," I'm presuming this to mean some kind of afterlife? I've heard religious people speak of an afterlife in various forms. I was raised with the idea that good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell. But it's just a speculative claim; there's no evidence that any of that is true. I know it gives some people hope to believe that death is not the final end, which is probably the main reason for religion's appeal in the first place.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Both theist and atheist were the victim of poverty in life. Somebody asked:

Hey theist why are you sad ?
Theist's answer: Sad because God has not provided me enough money in my life.

Hey atheist are you also sad because God has not given you enough money in your life ? or its your own faliure ? or something else ?
What will be an atheist's answer ?
No ... sometimes ... also sometimes. Next question?
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Hey atheist are you also sad because God has not given you enough money in your life ? or its your own faliure ? or something else ?
What will be an atheist's answer ?
Your question is incoherent.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It is possible that a rich person can be a sad person, it is also possible that poor person can be a happy person.
Bad people are always sad people.

So, if somebody is happy, does that mean they can't be bad? I've read about and seen quite a number of bad people in this world who appeared quite content and satisfied with themselves. If they're sad, then they seem to put on a good act. Or maybe they believe that they're good people.
 

chinu

chinu
In that context, it would seem that material wealth is of little to no importance, except the bare necessities to get one through life. When you speak of "re-union," I'm presuming this to mean some kind of afterlife? I've heard religious people speak of an afterlife in various forms. I was raised with the idea that good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell. But it's just a speculative claim; there's no evidence that any of that is true. I know it gives some people hope to believe that death is not the final end, which is probably the main reason for religion's appeal in the first place.
I have my own defination for hell and heaven.
Heaven: any realm that gives one pleasure.
Hell: any realm that gives one displeasure.

Different people can have different choices. Something which is pleasurable can be dis-pleasurable for another.

Re-union means oneness with something which is away from ANY KIND OF LIFE.

Not all people are interested in re-union, only rare people who find this world dis-pleasurable search for re-union. And yes, re-union is like a heaven for those souls.
 

chinu

chinu
So, if somebody is happy, does that mean they can't be bad? I've read about and seen quite a number of bad people in this world who appeared quite content and satisfied with themselves. If they're sad, then they seem to put on a good act. Or maybe they believe that they're good people.
Past goodness can aslo result in today's happiness.

Bad people are always sad people means -- they will be sad in the coming future.
 
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