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WHO IS GOD'S TRUE ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
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And even if you believe that commandment is only about rotting thighs and stomach aches, her pregnancy will then be aborted when she is executed (Lev 20:10) after being found guilty of having rotting thighs and a stomach ache from drinking the "bitter water" medication to prove her guilt of adultery beyond all reasonable doubt (Numbers 5:22).
No, you aren't understanding me. I'm saying a FAKE test has been designed which will NOT cause rotting thighs or swollen belly. The purpose of the fake test is to placate the husband who is irrationally jealous of an innocent woman. Othello Syndrome is a very real thing.
 

Monty

Active Member
Your response here.

See post # 294 linked. Your post here is unresponsive to the post you are quoting from.
So what is the fate of the pregnancy when a pregnant adulteress is commanded to be executed (Lev 20:10) after being found guilty by drinking a "bitter water" medication as commanded (Numbers 5:22)? Or do you choose to close your eyes to what the bible actually says and means?
 
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Monty

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No, you aren't understanding me. I'm saying a FAKE test has been designed which will NOT cause rotting thighs or swollen belly. The purpose of the fake test is to placate the husband who is irrationally jealous of an innocent woman. Othello Syndrome is a very real thing.
Nonsense!!! Have you ever discussed your personal interpretation of that commandment with one of the biblical gods?
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
So what is the fate of the pregnancy when a pregnant adulteress is commanded to be executed (Lev 20:10) after being found guilty by drinking a "bitter water" medication as commanded (Numbers 5:22)? Or do you choose to close your eyes to what the bible actually says and means?
Think your argument through. The "Law of Jealousy" was to find out if a wife was being faithful or unfaithful. If the wife was being faithful then they did not receive any curses from God's judgements. If the wife was already pregnant then the husband would already see it. So what your proposing makes no sense. See post # 294 linked. Your post here is unresponsive to the post you are quoting from.
 
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Monty

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Think your argument through. The "Law of Jealousy" was to find out if a wife was being faithful or unfaithful. If the wife was being faithful then they did not receive any curses from God's judgements. If the wife was already pregnant then the husband would already see it. So what your proposing makes no sense. See post # 294 linked. Your post here is unresponsive to the post you are quoting from.
Think your argument through. What you're proposing makes no sense. When a pregnant adulteress is executed as commanded (Lev 20:10) then her pregnancy is aborted. And how on Earth would the husband know that his property was pregnant a week or so after her adultery anyway. The commandment in Numbers 5:20-28 to terminate pregnancies of adulteresses is about the property rights of men to ensure legitimate lines of descent and inheritance and has nothing whatsoever to do with a god. The reference to a god is no different to a judge when sentencing someone to death and sarcastically saying "And may the lord have mercy on your soul".

Have you ever discussed your personal interpretation of those commandments with a god or with your Sunday School teacher?
 
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3rdAngel

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Think your argument through. What you're proposing makes no sense. When a pregnant adulteress is executed as commanded (Lev 20:10) then her pregnancy is aborted. And how on Earth would the husband know that his property was pregnant a week or so after her adultery anyway. The commandment in Numbers 5:20-28 to terminate pregnancies of adulteresses is about the property rights of men to ensure legitimate lines of descent and inheritance and has nothing whatsoever to do with a god. The reference to a god is no different to a judge when sentencing someone to death and sarcastically saying "And may the lord have mercy on your soul".

Have you ever discussed your personal interpretation of those commandments with a god or with your Sunday School teacher?
Well aren't you the funny one deflecting what I have already posted to you without addressing anything in the post you are responding to? Please forgive me dear friend but I do believe what the bible actually says which is why I posted scripture context as a help to you that you have disregarded that proves your interpretation of Leviticus 20 and Numbers 5 does not support what you are saying. Your response has only been silence, repetition and deflection and an unwillingness to address my earlier posts and scriptures shared with you that prove your claims that God promotes abortion is unbiblical nonsense and lies. There is nothing in Numbers 5 or Leviticus 20 about abortion. It is Gods judgement for a faithful and unfaithful woman from the law of jealousy. You are reading abortion into the scriptures and disregarding scripture context. The answer to your question is in the context you disregard. It is the law of jealousy to see if a woman is being faithful or not faithful. The curse is a judgement from God only received from God for unfaithfulness. If you disagree please address the scriptures and the context you disregarded showing your teachings are in error from post # 235 linked. If you cannot please forgive me but I do not believe you because you choose to close your eyes to what the bible actually says. As to your question? I do not go to Sunday school and yes I discuss Gods Word with God which is why I posted the scripture context that is in disagreement with you that I believe shows you do not know God or His Word so we will have to agree to disagree.
 
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Monty

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Please forgive me dear friend but I do believe what the bible actually says
IOW when a pregnant adulteress is executed as commanded (Lev 20:10) then her pregnancy is aborted.
I do not go to Sunday school and yes I discuss Gods Word with God
So how often have you seen your god and had a face to face discussion? And did you also share a meal like Abraham did with his god when they had a face to face discussion about the number of righteous children in Gomorrah, and how the god then walked down to count them, since he was neither an omniscient or omnipresent god (Gen 18)?
 
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3rdAngel

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Well aren't you the funny one deflecting what I have already posted to you without addressing anything in the post you are responding to? Please forgive me dear friend but I do believe what the bible actually says which is why I posted scripture context as a help to you that you have disregarded that proves your interpretation of Leviticus 20 and Numbers 5 does not support what you are saying. Your response has only been silence, repetition and deflection and an unwillingness to address my earlier posts and scriptures shared with you that prove your claims that God promotes abortion is unbiblical nonsense and lies. There is nothing in Numbers 5 or Leviticus 20 about abortion. It is Gods judgement for a faithful and unfaithful woman from the law of jealousy. You are reading abortion into the scriptures and disregarding scripture context. The answer to your question is in the context you disregard. It is the law of jealousy to see if a woman is being faithful or not faithful. The curse is a judgement from God only received from God for unfaithfulness. If you disagree please address the scriptures and the context you disregarded showing your teachings are in error from post # 235 linked. If you cannot please forgive me but I do not believe you because you choose to close your eyes to what the bible actually says. As to your question? I do not go to Sunday school and yes I discuss Gods Word with God which is why I posted the scripture context that is in disagreement with you that I believe shows you do not know God or His Word so we will have to agree to disagree.
Your response here.
IOW when a pregnant adulteress is executed as commanded (Lev 20:10) then her pregnancy is aborted. So how often have you seen your god and had a face to face discussion? And did you also share a meal like Abraham did with his god when they had a face to face discussion about the number of righteous children in Gomorrah, and how the god then walked down to count them, since he was neither an omniscient or omnipresent god (Gen 18)?
See post # 294 and post # 235 linked. Your post here is unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from that prove why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying. I meet my God every day through His Word, through my prayers and also sometimes in my dreams. He tells me through His Word that what you are posting is not biblical. Please forgive me but I do not believe you. I prefer what the scriptures teach in the linked posts you choose to ignore that show you why your teachings are not biblical.
 

Monty

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I meet my God every day
So where do you meet your god each day, and do you share a meal together like Abraham and his god did (Gen 18)?

Either way, the bible still commands that the pregnancies of adulteresses be aborted (Leviticus 20:10).
Or are you claiming that adulteresses never become pregnant, and if so, what is your evidence?
Or don't you believe what the bible actually says and means, and that the bible is unbiblical?
 
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3rdAngel

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So where do you meet your god each day, and do you share a meal together like Abraham and his god did (Gen 18)?

Either way, the bible still commands that the pregnancies of adulteresses be aborted (Leviticus 20:10).
Or are you claiming that adulteresses never become pregnant, and if so, what is your evidence?
Or don't you believe what the bible actually says and means, and that the bible is unbiblical?
See post # 294 and post # 235 linked. Your post here is unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from that prove why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying. I meet my God every day through His Word, through my prayers and also sometimes in my dreams. He tells me through His Word that what you are posting is not biblical. Please forgive me but I do not believe you. I prefer what the scriptures teach in the linked posts you choose to ignore that show you why your teachings are not biblical.
 

Monty

Active Member
I meet my God every day
And what is the colour of your god's eyes and skin?
And have you ever discussed Leviticus 20:10 together, which commands the execution of pregnant adulteresses and consequently that their pregnancies are aborted?
Or don't you believe what the bible actually says and means?
 
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3rdAngel

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And what is the colour of your god's eyes and skin?
And have you ever discussed Leviticus 20:10 together, which commands the execution of pregnant adulteresses and consequently that their pregnancies are aborted?
Or don't you believe what the bible actually says and means?
Unresponsive to the post you are quoting from. See post # 310 linked.
 

Monty

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Unresponsive to the post you are quoting from.
That's your choice if you want to be unresponsive to what the bible actually says and means, but it doesn't change the fact that the pregnancies of adulteresses are aborted when pregnant adulteresses are commanded to be executed (Lev 20:10), even if you believe that the bible is unbiblical.
 
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3rdAngel

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That's your choice if you want to be unresponsive to what the bible actually says and means, but it doesn't change the fact that the pregnancies of adulteresses are aborted when pregnant adulteresses are commanded to be executed (Lev 20:10), even if you believe that the bible is unbiblical.
Unresponsive to the post you are quoting from. See post # 310 linked and post # 294 and post # 235 linked that prove from the scripture contexts you choose to disregard why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying.
 

Monty

Active Member
Unresponsive to the post you are quoting from.
And the broken record syndrome yet again.
IOW you don't believe what the bible actually says and means, and just cherry pick the biblical texts which you personally prefer and ignore those you don't which you claim are "unbiblical".

But what type of meals do you eat with your god when you meet daily and discuss the biblical texts together, and are they non-kosher meals like Abraham's god ate (Gen 18)?
 
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3rdAngel

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And the broken record syndrome yet again.
IOW you don't believe what the bible actually says and means, and just cherry pick the biblical texts which you personally prefer and ignore those you don't which you claim are "unbiblical".

But what type of meals do you eat with your god when you meet daily and discuss the biblical texts together, and are they non-kosher meals like Abraham's god ate (Gen 18)?
Unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from and the scriptures that are in disagreement with you. See post # 310 linked and post # 294 and post # 235 linked that prove from the scripture contexts you choose to disregard, why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying. Lets talk more when you want to enter into discussion. Until then please forgive me but I do not believe you. I prefer to believe the scriptures provided in the linked posts that are in disagreement with you that you are unwilling to discuss with me.
 

Monty

Active Member
Unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from
And the broken record syndrome yet again in your continual "copy and posts". And alas you have still not proved anything at all, and cannot refute the fact that pregnancies are aborted when pregnant adulteresses are commanded to be executed (Leviticus 20:10).

But what type of meal did you share with your god today, when you both discussed which biblical texts were unbiblical and why you believe the commandments in Leviticus 20:10 and Numbers 5:20-28 are unbiblical?
 
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3rdAngel

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And the broken record syndrome yet again in your continual "copy and posts". And alas you have still not proved anything at all, and cannot refute the fact that pregnancies are aborted when pregnant adulteresses are commanded to be executed (Leviticus 20:10).

But what type of meal did you share with your god today, when you both discussed which biblical texts were unbiblical and why you believe the commandments in Leviticus 20:10 and Numbers 5:20-28 are unbiblical?
Your deflecting what you are doing. I am sorry but I cannot help you if you refuse to believe the scriptures. Your posts are unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from and the scriptures that are in disagreement with you. See post # 310 linked and post # 294 and post # 235 linked that prove from the scripture contexts you choose to disregard, why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying.
 

Monty

Active Member
Your deflecting what you are doing. I am sorry but I cannot help you if you refuse to believe the scriptures. Your posts are unresponsive to the posts you are quoting from and the scriptures that are in disagreement with you. See post # 310 linked and post # 294 and post # 235 linked that prove from the scripture contexts you choose to disregard, why your interpretation of the scriptures is unbiblical and does not support what you are saying.
Broken record syndrome yet again!!!
So you believe that the commandment in Lev 20:10 is unbiblical since it commands the abortions of pregnant adulteresses, and likewise Numbers 5:20-28.

But perhaps you can tell us why the bible says nothing at all about female homosexuality, and why Jesus said nothing about homosexuality except to ask his followers to accept that some men do not marry because they are so born from their mothers' wombs (Matt 19:12), and whether that is why he never married and why the particular disciple he loved laid on his breast (John 21:20)?
 
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Monty

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No, you aren't understanding me. I'm saying a FAKE test has been designed which will NOT cause rotting thighs or swollen belly. The purpose of the fake test is to placate the husband who is irrationally jealous of an innocent woman. Othello Syndrome is a very real thing.
So what is your evidence that Numbers 5:22 describes a fake test which only causes the pregnancy termination of pregnant adulteresses and not rotting thighs, in order that they should then be executed (Lev 20:10)?
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And may the water that brings these curses enter your stomach and make your womb discharge and make you miscarry.” And the woman will say, “I agree, I agree.”
Numbers 5:22.
 
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