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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Sinaiticus may not have been written till after that.
I have called for S&V to be C-14 tested, that and all things that are claimed to be older than 6000 years .
Of course no one is going to do that.
Sorry Mark 16:9-20 has been the ending of Mark in almost all manuscripts ever.
The few that do not have the last 12 are Satanic of course.
Can you refute any of my claims, proofs?
Can you meet the challenge?
Can you answer any of the few questions I have asked or give a rational answer to the origin of anything?

I don't need to refute your claim friend as you have already done that yourself by claiming Bibles written prior to the KJV were written by Satanists.

Aside from being extremely funny - thanks for that much - If Bibles prior to the KJV were written by Satanists this means that the the KJV contains material written by Satanists the KJV copied the material from Bibles written by Satanists.

See how logic works friend :) According to your hypothesis .. the KJV was inspired by Satan.
 

chris baron

Member
there is nothing on the face of the earth that can be proven to be billions of years old. nothing lasts for billions of years. they say cave paintings are 10s of thousands of years old but high-quality paint used on cars won't even last 50 yrs.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
there is nothing on the face of the earth that can be proven to be billions of years old.
Except there is. It’s apparent that you aren’t educated on the facts and science.
nothing lasts for billions of years.
This is a claim, where is your evidence and argument?
they say cave paintings are 10s of thousands of years old but high-quality paint used on cars won't even last 50 yrs.
It’s UV light that destroys paint. Cave art gets protected and preserved because they are in CAVES.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I know of no King James Bible user is a flat earther
Although the pagan forbears believed it,
I do know some. One curious fellow that is all three of those told me the story of him spending quite a large sum of money on a telescope for the sole purpose of proving once and for all that the earth was indeed flat.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
But I have proved it,

You have not proven the the Earliest Bibles .. including from shortly after the time of Contantine .. were written by Satanists as you claim .. nor have you shown that the KJV was not written by Satanists .. to claim "Proof" as such would be a deception.

But .. if the Earliest Bibles were indeed written by Satanists as you claim .. then you have confirmed that the KJV contains the hand of the Satanists - having been copied from copies of these earliest Bibles.

Oh what a tangled web we weave. Do you believe that Satan - the great deceiver - messed with the geology of the earth to make it look like the Global Flood never happened ? .. and does all kinds of other things to trick humans .. including messing with the Bible .. which explains all the contradictions, errors, omission, interpolation and Pious Fraud ?

This hypothesis of yours is getting interesting .. always gets exciting when Satan enters into the picture.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
You have not proven the the Earliest Bibles .. including from shortly after the time of Contantine .. were written by Satanists as you claim .. nor have you shown that the KJV was not written by Satanists .. to claim "Proof" as such would be a deception.

But .. if the Earliest Bibles were indeed written by Satanists as you claim .. then you have confirmed that the KJV contains the hand of the Satanists - having been copied from copies of these earliest Bibles.

Oh what a tangled web we weave. Do you believe that Satan - the great deceiver - messed with the geology of the earth to make it look like the Global Flood never happened ? .. and does all kinds of other things to trick humans .. including messing with the Bible .. which explains all the contradictions, errors, omission, interpolation and Pious Fraud ?

This hypothesis of yours is getting interesting .. always gets exciting when Satan enters into the picture.
The earliest were the originals, then the first copies and translations.
Vetus Latina is mid 2nd century.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
The earliest were the originals, then the first copies and translations.
Vetus Latina is mid 2nd century.

Sorry friend .. there was no new testimant Bible in the 2nd century .. there was a Jewish Bible but, no Bible containing the Gospel of Mark .. and this Gospel was written by Satanists according to you .. the later copies and translations finding their way into the Satanic KJV according to you.

Vetus Latina is not mid 2nd century friend .. you missed the mark by 200 years .. but no worries .. composed by satanists.

You failed to answer the question .. Do you believe that Satan - the great deceiver - messed with the geology of the earth to make it look like the Global Flood never happened ? .. and does all kinds of other things to trick humans .. including messing with the Bible .. which explains all the contradictions, errors, omission, interpolation and Pious Fraud ?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Sorry friend .. there was no new testimant Bible in the 2nd century .. there was a Jewish Bible but, no Bible containing the Gospel of Mark .. and this Gospel was written by Satanists according to you .. the later copies and translations finding their way into the Satanic KJV according to you.

Vetus Latina is not mid 2nd century friend .. you missed the mark by 200 years .. but no worries .. composed by satanists.

You failed to answer the question .. Do you believe that Satan - the great deceiver - messed with the geology of the earth to make it look like the Global Flood never happened ? .. and does all kinds of other things to trick humans .. including messing with the Bible .. which explains all the contradictions, errors, omission, interpolation and Pious Fraud ?
All of the NT was written by 70 AD .
And you assertions are not true.
All of the NT by 70 AD in Greek.
And Vetus Latina by mid second century.
The geology proves 6 day creation about 6000 years ago with a world wide flood about 4500 years ago.
Satan has deceived the world and that includes you.
You have been had .

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What does your infallible science say?
Abiogenesis by natural processes is impossible.
So the no God assumption is disproved forever.
The basis of Atheistic Origin Science is a lie.
The same goes for the existence of the finely tuned universe.
Where did the universe come from?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
All of the NT was written by 70 AD .
And you assertions are not true.
All of the NT by 70 AD in Greek.
And Vetus Latina by mid second century.
The geology proves 6 day creation about 6000 years ago with a world wide flood about 4500 years ago.
Satan has deceived the world and that includes you.
You have been had .

What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What does your infallible science say?
Abiogenesis by natural processes is impossible.
So the no God assumption is disproved forever.
The basis of Atheistic Origin Science is a lie.
The same goes for the existence of the finely tuned universe.
Where did the universe come from?
Your claim about abiogenisis calculation was was proven false .. by your lack of ability to tell us the implicit assumptions .. the assumptions you claim are forbidden to argument .. in a circular dance of logical fallacy denial deflection and now deception .. reciting the same material you know has been proven false .. but this a big rabbit hole to begin with .. as we are talking about your claim that Mark was written by satanists.

The claim that all of the NT was written by 70 AD is simply false and something made up on the spot but it matters not ?! as we are talking about Mark which was written by 70 AD .. and including the writings of Paul (not the Pseudopigrapha - that written by someone else but attributed to Paul much later) . when you claim the satanists got to writing Mark which was then later recopied these writings eventually making into the KJV = "Satanic Verses" according to your claims.

The question you keep avoiding is if you think it was Lord Satan .. Lord of the Earth who put all these contradictions -changes - omission - interpolation and pious fraud into the various Bible Translations .. and mixed up the Geology of the Earth to make it look much older than 6000 years to Scientists l. Do you believe "The Devil Did it" .. Is Satan not Lord over the Earth .. hiding around every corner waiting to deceive ?

Certainly we have found such Satanic deception in the Bible .. as you aptly pointed out .. and in Science, History, archeaology, geology and so on .. leading us on the path away from God ..

Where did this Devil Come from ? and who gave him power over the Earth ? .. Inquiring minds want to know what Lord Marty has to say on the issue.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
And of course that makes no sense.
If someone makes a copy of the Mona Lisa it proves the Mona Lisa is false.
And if someone pretends to be you, you never existed.
Wow what a crazy theory.
But that is how desperate the evolutionists are.
Newsflash.... the KJV, is the copy.

And not just "a" copy. No...

It's a copy of a copy of a translation of a copy of a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation of a copy of...... (this goes on for a while).
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Well I did prove all my claims .
Untrue. You have proved nothing except that you don't understand what 'proof' means and you are astoundingly ignorant of science, logic, and mathematics.

However, evolution is dismissed as it is asserted without evidence..
Also untrue. You have been given evidence and you just run away from it and pretend it's not there. You seem to be terrified of even considering the evidence (even more than most science deniers).
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Untrue. You have proved nothing except that you don't understand what 'proof' means and you are astoundingly ignorant of science, logic, and mathematics.


Also untrue. You have been given evidence and you just run away from it and pretend it's not there. You seem to be terrified of even considering the evidence (even more than most science deniers).
What was the first living thing and what features did it have?
Now answer both for the next 100 living things.
Where did all the matter and energy in the universe come from?
Where did the finely tuned and orderly laws of nature come from?
What caused the Big Bang?
What existed before that and what caused that?
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
What was the first living thing and what features did it have?
Now answer both for the next 100 living things.
Where did all the matter and energy in the universe come from?
Where did the finely tuned and orderly laws of nature come from?
What caused the Big Bang?
What existed before that and what caused that?
More running away....

What are you afraid of?
 

chris baron

Member
Not sure if this was a serious post or just satire.
what is there on the face of the earth that is billions of years old? if you make a claim about the age of the earth back it up.

Disappearing continents
On the scale of one human life-span, rates of erosion are low. But for those who say the continents are billions of years old, the rates are staggering. A height of 150 kilometres (93 miles) of continent would have eroded in 2.5 billion years. It defies common sense. If erosion had been going on for billions of years, no continents would remain on Earth.

sedimentologists have researched many of the world’s rivers and calculated how fast the land is disappearing. The measurements show that some rivers are excavating their basins by more than 1,000 mm (39 inches) of height in 1,000 years, while others move only 1 mm (0.04 inches) in 1,000 years. The average height reduction for all the continents of the world is about 60 mm (2.4 inches) per 1,000 years, which equates to some 24 billion tonnes of sediment per year (Table 1).5 That is a lot of top dressing!
 
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