It is an objection to your SC nonsense.
Remember why you are even presenting it: to detect artificial design origins when the origins aren't yet known.
So in the case of the roses (or the eye), the origins of it (why only red roses / how did they eye come about) are unknown. Then the question is: how do you detect artificial design (a gardener only wanted red roses / god created the eye).
Now you are saying it must already be known for the SC-model of detecting design to work.
Derp di derp derp.
I asked you previously why SC could be concluded about the eye before darwin. I asked you to list the criteria that warranted that conclusion. Remember your "sophisticated" answer?
- it's complex
- it seems unlikely (= appeal to ignorance of its origins. "unknown" is translated to "unlikely").
Then Darwin explained it.
Suddenly SC is no longer warranted.
You have utterly failed time and again to show how SC is capable in a reliable way to detect artificial design in things of unknown origins.
You have, instead, successfully shown how the entire thing is utterly useless in doing exactly that.
Well The field of roses has an unknown origin , so one would
1 observe the roses (are they all red)…. If Yes then add a checkmark
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2 count the roses (do we have hundreds of roses) )…. If Yes then add a checkmark
3 understand the laws that roses follow (genetics for example), Are white roses as likely as red roses?)……….. you can make a simple experiment, take a few sample of roses, (or seeds) plant them and see if white and red roses appear at a 50/50 ratio )…….. If Yes then add a checkmark
If after your research, observations and experiments you ended up adding 3 checkmarks then you can conclude SC
IF one check mar fails, then it is “NO-SC”
Additional knowledge could make you add or remove a checkmark, for example maybe you discovered that natural selection removes white roses, maybe you discover that the tool that you use to observe doesn’t detect “white” maybe additional knowledge shows that there are only 3 roses, surrounded by mirrors (you observed the same roses many times)
Note,that you don’t need to know the origin of the roses a priori, you don’t need to know if they were designed before concluding SC