Subduction Zone
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No, they do not. That is just a delusion on your part. You cannot even support your claim that the Bible is God's word. Quoting from the Bible does not help you when you try to do that.
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"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES
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3rdAngel
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You were provided scripture that is Gods' Words not mine that are in disagreement with your words that are not Gods' Word. Please forgive me but I do not believe you. For me only God's Words are true and we should believe and follow them *Romans 3:4; Acts 5:29. There is no salvation or eternal life outside of faith in Gods' Words. According to the scriptures there is only death awaiting those who walk the path of sin and unbelief as shown in Hebrews 6:4-8; Hebrews 10:36-31; 1 John 2:3-4.
Take Care dear friend.
Subduction Zone
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No, it does not appear to be "God's word" that is just an unsupported claim that you made.
I asked you before but you never answered: Are you just playing silly fan fiction games? If that is the case then no one should be taking you any more seriously than they would take someone that is arguing about the Lord of the Rings.
Why are you not following your own book?
15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
3rdAngel
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Your response here...
Please forgive me dear friend but I do not believe you. Scriptures showing why in the previous post that you are quoting from. You of course are free to believe or not believe Gods' Word, that is between you and God. According to the scriptures there is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgement day (see Luke 8:17 and John 12:47-48). At that time however according to the scriptures I believe it will be too late for many that had the chance to believe and follow Gods' Word and choose not to according to Matthew 7:13-23; Hebrews 6:4-8 and Hebrews 10:26-31. So because of these reasons dear friend we will agree to disagree.
Take Care
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Subduction Zone
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You just told us that you have an irrational belief. There should not be any choice in belief. That is why I ask for evidence, but you have none.
All that you have is a book of myths.
It is rather amazing how little of the Bible that you actually understand.
3rdAngel
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Your response here...
No not really dear friend. I just told you I do not believe you. For me only Gods' Words are true and we should believe and follow them (see Romans 3:4 and Acts 5:29). This is the path I choose to believe and follow because I know God and choose to believe and follow Him. You are someone that once believed in God and His Word but has chosen to depart the faith to follow a life of sin and unbelief, who no longer believes in God and His Word so we will never be in agreement here. According to the scriptures in Psalms 14:1 the fool says in his heart there is no God because it is foolish to think there is no God without having any evidence for that belief, and again in 1 Corinthians 1:18-21 18, it is written; For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God 19, For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20, Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21, For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." and again, "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty." - 1 Corinthians 1:27 and again in 1 Corinthians 3:19-20 19, For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20, And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. I believe we can never know God or His Words if we choose to continue walking a path of sin and unbelief according to the scriptures already provided in the post you are quoting from. Therefore there will never be any agreement between a believer that knows God and His Word and someone that does not believe in God and does not know Gods' Word. So we will agree to disagree dear friend. This OP is on the claim that "the Lords day" is Sunday. Did you have anything to contribute? - So far it seems not.
Take Care.
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Subduction Zone
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Once again, it does not matter if you believe me or not. I could claim that you were lying. What good would that do? What matters is can either of us support what we post.
You do not seem to be able to do so. All you can do is to quote the Bible out of context and demonstrate that you cannot understand it.
So why do you not follow the last verse that I posted to you? A real Christian would be able to do so.
By the way, you also do not seem to understand the difference between knowledge and belief. You only appear to have a rather weak belief in God. You have not demonstrated any knowledge.
3rdAngel
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Sure it does if one professes to believe the holy scriptures. I just showed you why with scripture.
All of my posts have been supported with scripture that are in disagreement with you. Your response each time was silence and ignoring the content of the posts that have been shared with you. So please forgive me but I do not believe you and have shown why already.
If you believe I have posted scripture out of context that does not support what has been shared with you then prove your claims and show me where I have quoted scripture out of context and the context does not support what has been shared with you. On the other hand all my posts to your claims and scripture you have taken out of context has been shown to be in error when you have been provided the context of the scriptures you have provided in our past discussion. So once again we will agree to disagree here dear friend.
What last verse did you quote to me? All the scriptures you have provided are generally taken out of context and do not support your understanding of the bible once the context has been shared with you.
A real Christian according to the scriptures is someone that believes and follows what Gods' Word says. A real Christian is not someone that chooses to depart the faith to return to a life of sin and unbelief (see Hebrews 6:4-8; 1 John 2:3-4; Matthew 7:13-23; John 3:36).
Sorry I do not believe you. I believe true knowledge is only found in God and His Word (Colossians 2:2-3; 1 Timothy 2:4; see also Hebrews 10:26; 2 Peter 2:20-22)
Take care.
Subduction Zone
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No, you cannot "show" anything with scripture until it is demonstrated to be reliable. Until you do that you are only playing fan fiction games.
No, your posts tend to be quoting out of context or not even understanding the verses that you quote.
Can you make a proper argument? You need to start with why the Bible is reliable. You do not even seem to know the origin of the seven day week.
I may in the future. I do not play the game of going back over your past losses.
LOL!! And you claimed that I ignored you. 1 Peter 3 15
Cherry picking verses again. Yawn.
Well that is a mistake on your part. Worse yet none of those verses support you. It is a pity since you appear to be calling your own God a liar at times.
Walter and Debbie
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Hello 3rdAngle, which site CF.Net, or CF.com, and how do you remember me?
3rdAngel
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Yes you keep in saying this and I keep telling you I do not believe you. You are free to choose to follow a life of sin and unbelief in God and His Word. That is up to you. As posted earlier, I believe we can never know God or His Words if we choose to continue walking a path of sin and unbelief according to the scriptures already provided in the earlier posts you are quoting from. Therefore there will never be any agreement between a believer that knows God and His Word and someone that does not believe in God and does not know Gods' Word. So we will agree to disagree dear friend. This OP is on the claim that "the Lords day" is Sunday. Did you have anything to contribute? - So far it seems not.
Then prove it. As posted earlier show me a single scripture I have posted where the context shows difference meaning? I have asked you this question many time now and all I hear in return is silence. Yet you have been provided scripture context to the scriptures you provide showing your interpretation of the scriptures you provided were in error. Again all you hear from you is silence and your unwillingness to discuss the content of the posts and scriptures that have been shared with you that are in disagreement with you. All you provide is empty statements not supported by any evidence or fact to support your claims. Ignoring Gods' Word dear friend does not make it disappear. It becomes our very judge come judgement day according to Jesus in John 12:47-48. So sorry I do not believe you. For me only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them according to Romans 3:4 and Acts 5:29.
According to the scriptures that only standard of what is true and what is not true are the scriptures (John 17:17). I do not need to start with anything because I know God and His Words are true. You start from a place of sin and unbelief and according to the scriptures no one can find God there. It is you that does not understand creation and the origins of the seven day week because you choose not to believe and follow God's Word.
Well if you know you have already lost then perhaps it is time to believe and follow what Gods' Word says and be blessed.
Yes you have been ignoring and not responding to the scripture content of my posts that are in disagreement with you. What about 1 Peter 3:15 would you like to know?
No not at all dear friend. I am just providing scripture support and evidence for what is being shared with you. Once again if you disagree with any of the scriptures that have been shared with you your welcome to prove why from the scriptures. Until then all you have are your words denying God's Word. As posted again in from the section you are responding to, a real Christian according to the scriptures is someone that believes and follows what Gods' Word says. A real Christian is not someone that chooses to depart the faith to return to a life of sin and unbelief (see Hebrews 6:4-8; 1 John 2:3-4; Matthew 7:13-23; John 3:36). Now tell me what is it in these scriptures that do not support what I have said to you? If you cannot show that these scriptures do not support what I am sharing with you why pretend that they do not?
Sorry dear friend but I do not believe you. I believe true knowledge is only found in God and His Word (Colossians 2:2-3; 1 Timothy 2:4; see also Hebrews 10:26; 2 Peter 2:20-22). Once again, If you do not believe those scriptures support what I have been sharing with you then you are welcome to prove why. If you cannot then all you have are your words denying Gods' Word so we will agree to disagree.
Take Care.
3rdAngel
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Hello Walter, you use to read and post in some of my thread OP's on the Sabbath question I was user "LoveGodsWord"
Subduction Zone
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It does not matter if you believe me or not. Why do you have such a hard time understanding this? It matters who can support their views and you do not seem to have the ability to do that at all.
Sorry, but you cannot demand that. To do so you have to be willing to admit when you have been shown to be wrong.
Who cares? I could show you another holy book that makes the same claim. You have to show that your holy book is reliable first.
[/quote]Well if you know you have already lost then perhaps it is time to believe and follow what Gods' Word says and be blessed.[/quote]
Oh my! Blatant dishonesty. Would your God approve?
As I asked earlier, why don't you follow it? And I have not ignored your nonsense. I have point out the flaws in it.
And that support is of no value until you shown that the Bible is valid.
Too bad. Because now it appears that you are acting as a hypocrite. The knowledge that you deny makes it possible to communicate here. If you really believe then you should not be using it.
Walter and Debbie
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Which site?
3rdAngel
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3rdAngel
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Sorry dear friend I do not believe you. I have already shown why I do not believe you so we will agree to disagree. If you disagree with my posts please address the content of my posts and the scriptures provided in them that are in disagreement with you and lets discuss them. Lets talk more when you have something to add to the discussion and the OP. I am not interested in playing dishonest accusations and name calling. I do not think there is any need to be unfriendly in the discussion here even if we do not agree with each other.
Take Care.
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Subduction Zone
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Yes, you showed me that you have very poor reasons.
And I see that you are running away again. That is what you do when people give you questions that you cannot answer.
Walter and Debbie
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Hello 3rdAngel, I no longer belong with them, but I did check out your user name with:
Christian Forums.net, did you belong there?
3rdAngel
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Sorry I do not believe you. You have not given me anything to run away from or not answer.
Take Care.
3rdAngel
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lol yes I think I was also there at some time. I have not been to both for sometime now