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Nonsense Scriptures?

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Scripture does have some very wise Noble things like: "turn the other cheek and love your enemies", just what an evil bloodthirsty regime would need to conquer the world.

Napoleon could have been the emperor of the entire Earth, if everybody would just turn the other cheek , and love him, like Jesus commanded. ;)


Is there any scripture verses that you think are nonsense? It has to be in the new testament, the old testament, or the deuterocanonicals.

If you don't think any of the scripture is nonsense, is there anything in there you disagree with, or that you find is closer to being nonsense than the rest, anything that stands out?

I would say Noah cursing the descendants of ham, simply really bothers me. Slavery really bothers me. Hard work, forced labor, being owned, is just terrible. Hard work without pay is just atrocious! That even the New Testament promotes slavery is just out of control!

And condemning all the descendants of somebody because of a very minor offense their father did, is just terrible! And it came from like the holiest man on Earth at the time. I just, words do not describe, how terrible that sounds to me!

When God told Eve that because she ate some stupid piece of fruit, , that we all have to die as a result, and women have to go through all kinds of childbirth pains multiplied, and dying while they give birth, because Eve listenes to a talking snake, and ate a piece of fruit, it just strikes me as being extremely cruel, extremely atrocious, extremely narcissistic, extremely tyrannical, and I would rather cease to exist , than spend an eternity worshiping a God who would do such a thing!

but if you don't think any scripture verses are nonsense, would you say you have one that is your least favorite?

I personally believe that God wanted Adam and Eve to fall, cuz he tempted them with forbidden fruit, he allowed a serpent (that he created ) into the garden to tempt them, he didn't show up as their knight in shining armor to protect them, and he allowed them to be so unintelligent they would listen to a talking snake, then punished and essentially murdered everybody, including you and i, because of their disobedience!

If such a story is true.

I simply can barely stomach such cruelty, inhumane treatment of creatures you claim to love and be a father of, and I think it's extremely sad that we have a creator that would actually do that, if indeed it's true!:(
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Scripture does have some very wise Noble things like: "turn the other cheek and love your enemies", just what an evil bloodthirsty regime would need to conquer the world.

Napoleon could have been the emperor of the entire Earth, if everybody would just turn the other cheek , and love him, like Jesus commanded. ;)


Is there any scripture verses that you think are nonsense? It has to be in the new testament, the old testament, or the deuterocanonicals.

If you don't think any of the scripture is nonsense, is there anything in there you disagree with, or that you find is closer to being nonsense than the rest, anything that stands out?

I would say Noah cursing the descendants of ham, simply really bothers me. Slavery really bothers me. Hard work, forced labor, being owned, is just terrible. Hard work without pay is just atrocious! That's even the New Testament promotes slavery is just out of control!

And condemning all the descendants of somebody because of a very minor offense their father did, is just terrible! And it came from like the holiest man on Earth at the time. I just, words do not describe, how terrible that sounds to me!

When God told Eve that because she ate some stupid piece of fruit, , that we all have to die as a result, and women have to go through all kinds of childbirth pains multiplied, and dying why they while they give birth, because Eve listen to a talking snake, and ate a piece of fruit, it just strikes me as being extremely cruel, extremely atrocious, extremely narcissistic, extremely tyrannical, and I would rather cease to exist than spend an eternity worshiping a God who would do such a thing!

but if you don't think any scripture verses are nonsense, would you say you have one that is your least favorite?

I personally believe that God wanted Adam and Eve to fall, cuz he tempted them with forbidden fruit, he allowed a serpent (that he created ) into the garden to tempt them, he didn't show up as their knight in shining armor to protect them, and he allowed them to be so unintelligent they would listen to a talking snake, then punished and essentially murdered everybody, including you and i, because of their disobedience!

I simply can barely stomach such cruelty, inhumane treatment of creatures you claim to love and be a father of, and I think it's extremely sad that we have a creator that would actually do that, if indeed it's true!:(
We see through the glass darkly.
God sees the big picture.
It's a good thing to keep in mind.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Scripture does have some very wise Noble things like: "turn the other cheek and love your enemies", just what an evil bloodthirsty regime would need to conquer the world.

Napoleon could have been the emperor of the entire Earth, if everybody would just turn the other cheek , and love him, like Jesus commanded. ;)


Is there any scripture verses that you think are nonsense? It has to be in the new testament, the old testament, or the deuterocanonicals.

If you don't think any of the scripture is nonsense, is there anything in there you disagree with, or that you find is closer to being nonsense than the rest, anything that stands out?

I would say Noah cursing the descendants of ham, simply really bothers me. Slavery really bothers me. Hard work, forced labor, being owned, is just terrible. Hard work without pay is just atrocious! That even the New Testament promotes slavery is just out of control!

And condemning all the descendants of somebody because of a very minor offense their father did, is just terrible! And it came from like the holiest man on Earth at the time. I just, words do not describe, how terrible that sounds to me!

When God told Eve that because she ate some stupid piece of fruit, , that we all have to die as a result, and women have to go through all kinds of childbirth pains multiplied, and dying while they give birth, because Eve listen to a talking snake, and ate a piece of fruit, it just strikes me as being extremely cruel, extremely atrocious, extremely narcissistic, extremely tyrannical, and I would rather cease to exist than spend an eternity worshiping a God who would do such a thing!

but if you don't think any scripture verses are nonsense, would you say you have one that is your least favorite?

I personally believe that God wanted Adam and Eve to fall, cuz he tempted them with forbidden fruit, he allowed a serpent (that he created ) into the garden to tempt them, he didn't show up as their knight in shining armor to protect them, and he allowed them to be so unintelligent they would listen to a talking snake, then punished and essentially murdered everybody, including you and i, because of their disobedience!

I simply can barely stomach such cruelty, inhumane treatment of creatures you claim to love and be a father of, and I think it's extremely sad that we have a creator that would actually do that, if indeed it's true!:(
Is this all you? Fabulous!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Is this all you? Fabulous!
I didn't quote any verses word for word, but would you agree the descendants of ham were cursed , and all of us were cursed because of Adam and Eve's disobedience?

That strikes me as nonsense to punish children for what their parents did, is what I'm saying .

Do you have any verses you find nonsensical?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The tale of Adam and Eve is a tale.

The pattern said of the woman being a helper of the man is a puzzle.

Each word is 1. either misinterpreted 1. means something beyond the normal psych 3. written wrong..so may, so very many, spells trouble!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I didn't quote any verses word for word, but would you agree the descendants of ham were cursed , and all of us were cursed because of Adam and Eve's disobedience?

That strikes me as nonsense to punish children for what their parents did, is what I'm saying .

Do you have any verses you find nonsensical?
I don't think that it was real disobedience. They were dim as the rest of us are. Just know that the Bible is a teaching story. It's not a test or a contest.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am baptized! I said sorry I keep dissing God. The cruelty in the Bible just makes me very angry! :(
It's history! I would not blame what has happened before on God.
I have not seen you dissing God, but I don't read much here either.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
It's history! I would not blame what has happened before on God.
I have not seen you dissing God, but I don't read much here either.
Thank you! :)

If only @JustGeorge were God, she wouldn't murder everyone over Adam +Eve eating forbidden fruit.

She might beat me up for disobedience, but not murder my descendants over it. :p
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you! :)

If only @JustGeorge were God, she wouldn't murder everyone over Adam +Eve eating forbidden fruit.

She might beat me up for disobedience, but not murder my descendants over it. :p

Nah, I wouldn't beat you up. I talk a big game, but I seldom resort to actual violence(though I like to play fight for the sport of it).

With my oldest, when he's in trouble, I tend to act dramatic(fake a heart attack) because when he gets caught doing something wrong, he gets angry. If I act silly and ridiculous, he can't help but smile, and then we can discuss what steps need to be taken to correct the situation. With the middle, I eat his snacks. Its one of the only thing that works with him. With the youngest, he simply goes to his room until he can compose himself again.

So, yeah. My steps would be, see Adam and Eve doing stuff they're not supposed to, fake a heart attack and fall on the ground, grab the apple and eat it myself, and send them both to separate sides of Eden so they can collect their thoughts and decide how to do better in the future.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Your use of the term non sense owns reasoning.

The bible was written as no sense existed first. The exact place theoried.

The thesis when a human biological feeling body life mind theories about nothing.

Where he lived earth was a non reacting body already owned sin K holes. Gods body owned it first ended.

He however visioned the past where no human lived or was bodily present in a God anti God reacting reaction.

Earths flesh.

It had ended the result nothing a hole.

So any human reviewing what was left of a theists thoughts by word use after science attacked claims the words non sense.

As theism for science hadn't used those words first.

As first a human has to use lots of words talking to their self in their own head to idealise what a number meant. How to infer it use it by words.

Why hurt human head brains prickled burnt...I gained that human advice what it meant..
Thorn prickled...heard speaking voices as if our brothers thoughts to himself first had time travelled.

AI psyche brain mind hearig changes caused. Unnatural voices speaking human. Voice that had wandered. Human images wandered away.

Oh my spirit is leaving said losing senses.

Reality water supporting bio living first was taken to cool falling burning gases.

How a theist says I made humans give up the ghost or humans have their life spirit to science.

As water goes everywhere leaves and boards wood trees burning it leaves stopping animals burning it leaves stopping humans burning.

Oh no says his stupid self I made it leave when it was meant to remain first not burning. As it returns to save attacked biology ice melt. Our saviour.

If water from ice melt was there first that saved changed biology we owned it first. Not earth burning converting mass.

Theist I place water with ice saving of burning earth mass first in my thesis. Stopped it converting. I will copy it. Stopping earth mass converting.

Instead he starts earth mass converting himself. Then stops it. Water had already saved gods body naturally.

So bio life gets burnt instead.

Human not a theist didn't understand.

Non sense.

Humans lost their sensible selves were replaced by changed biological chemical causes. That should not occur first.

We weren't created into lesser humans by being human first.

Non sense I believe life was sacrificed first.

Meaning origin life got sacrificed. It was first origin. Second advice origin life was sacrificed.

Origin means exact advice.

We aren't origin in a science thesis big bang blast the term big bang blast the origin thought.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
So, yeah. My steps would be, see Adam and Eve doing stuff they're not supposed to, fake a heart attack and fall on the ground, grab the apple and eat it myself, and send them both to separate sides of Eden so they can collect their thoughts and decide how to do better in the future.

Sounds a bit like what God did with A@E.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Sounds a bit like what God did with A@E.

I admit, I know little of Christian scriptures, but I never recalled God putting on a dramatic display or eating their apple. The last bit I could see... but did he let them come back when they were ready to play nice?
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Though now that I think of it... some childproofing would have been in order. I don't think I'd leave food out I didn't want the kids(or dogs, or cats) to eat.

Guess he needs more efficient food storage.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I am baptized! I said sorry I keep dissing God. The cruelty in the Bible just makes me very angry! :(
I have an advice to @Spiderman Stop reading the bible if you only can see the negative in it, stop making a billion OP that is harassment of religious people's scripture.

If you cant handle a scripture, judt stop.......
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I have an advice to @Spiderman Stop reading the bible if you only can see the negative in it, stop making a billion OP that is harassment of religious people's scripture.

If you cant handle a scripture, judt stop.......
Because it is helpful to vent, and I feel I am interceding for the world, by asking God to be nicer and kind to people.

It could potentially be a good service to humanity to point out hate and bigotry anywhere, including Scripture! ;)

I don't hate God, and I love my enemies, because they are confused and don't know better.

I get angry, but I love all people and don't hate anyone.

Any loving person should point out hate! I will point out cruelty, hatred, and bigotry, and it is found in Scripture! ;)
 
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