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Hitchen's Challange

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Don't be absurd, you said in the core, and that was the claim I addressed.
AS THE FLIPPIN' TITLE STATED!!!

Ah I see, you Googled a title you thought matched your absurd claim, and now are using circular reasoning, while waving away the facts from your own link, that refute your claim, because you failed to even read it beyond the title. :rolleyes: Quelle surprise...
 
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Sheldon

Veteran Member
Some scientists think Earth's oceans formed when icy comets hit the planet. But new research suggests a different origin for the oceans: they simply seeped out of the center of the Earth.

The finding, published in Science, suggests that a reservoir of water is hidden in the Earth's mantle, more than 400 miles below the surface. Try to refrain from imagining expanses of underground seas: all this water, three times the volume of water on the surface, is trapped inside rocks.

You're simply parroting the article you plagiarised before, and also failed to understand, as if your failure to understand it makes it more compelling?

It's like a small child holding its hands over its face, confident that it can now avoid the gaze of an edifying and judgemental parent.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Anyhow Audie, you're sounding way too pedantic.
You're trying to analyze the finger, and not to where it's pointing.
What a pathetic piece of vapid hand waving, dear oh dear? You could not have offered a clearer example of how your closed minded bias is only interested in one conclusion.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Stick to your sciences Audie, others perceive the more important matters.
I see now that, as we were talking about Theists vs atheists, you asked specifically about the flood, because geology was your area of expertise. You've got me there Audie, I can't match your acumen in that field.

It's a shame that, that seems to be the extent of your perception. Discussing righteousness and iniquity, or human nature and depravity, does not appear to be part of the equation in your understanding of the universe.
Enjoy the world as you know it, for according to you, if you can't quantify it, then it doesn't exist. Therefore, very little is beyond your control and understanding.
For me, I can tell a cesspool when I see one, and can fully understand why One would desire to annihilate the causes of the cesspool.

At least his acceptance of science doesn't involve hateful bigotry. That's more than your superstitious beliefs have managed.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
What a pathetic piece of vapid hand waving, dear oh dear? You could not have offered a clearer example of how your closed minded bias is only interested in one conclusion.
Now now, we are just have fun, dont be getting
all heavy duty with my friend.
 

DNB

Christian
Ah I see, you Googled a title you thought matched your absurd claim, and now are using circular reasoning, while waving away the facts from your own link, that refute your claim, because you failed to even read it beyond the title. :rolleyes: Quelle surprise...
Quelle surprise? Permet moi a t' apprendre quelque chose. Au dessous de la terre, c'est assez pour expliquer la point. La core, les tablettes, la feu, la sable, les pierres, etc... ce n'etait pas la point. Tu m'as dit qu'il n'y a pas assez d'eau dans l'atmosphere pour la deluge, Moi, j'ai dit qu'il y'a beacoup d'eau au fond de la terre. C'est ca.
 

DNB

Christian
You're simply parroting the article you plagiarised before, and also failed to understand, as if your failure to understand it makes it more compelling?

It's like a small child holding its hands over its face, confident that it can now avoid the gaze of an edifying and judgemental parent.
Either way Sheldon, God destroyed the earth once, and will do it again. He's not pleased with what man has done to each other. Do you think that all the porn sites, cannabis dispensaries, after hour clubs, liquor store, etc have gone unnoticed by Him. To me, Covid is a warning.
 

DNB

Christian
What a pathetic piece of vapid hand waving, dear oh dear? You could not have offered a clearer example of how your closed minded bias is only interested in one conclusion.
...like I keep saying, Theists are more insightful and perceptive than atheists.
 

DNB

Christian
At least his acceptance of science doesn't involve hateful bigotry. That's more than your superstitious beliefs have managed.
Evil is subjective? Are you like, devoid of any wisdom whatsoever? You sit there and have incessantly called me a bigot for denouncing homosexuality and all other deranged perversions as such, where in the flippin' world did you get that point of view if iniquity is merely subjective??? Meaning, since according to you, in another context or opinion, my denunciations would be considered acceptable and commendable - then why the flippin' heck do you bother to cast aspersions in the first place, Mr. double standard, ...or just downright confused?
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Either way Sheldon, God destroyed the earth once, and will do it again. He's not pleased with what man has done to each other. Do you think that all the porn sites, cannabis dispensaries, after hour clubs, liquor store, etc have gone unnoticed by Him. To me, Covid is a warning.
So the Christian God allows you to feel morally superior to everyone, well aren't you special.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Either way Sheldon, God destroyed the earth once, and will do it again. He's not pleased with what man has done to each other. Do you think that all the porn sites, cannabis dispensaries, after hour clubs, liquor store, etc have gone unnoticed by Him. To me, Covid is a warning.
How do you know this? I didn't see anything about cannabis dispensaries and porn sites in the Bible.
Didn't Jesus supposedly turn water into wine? Sounds like God doesn't have much of a problem with alcohol, then.
 

DNB

Christian
How do you know this? I didn't see anything about cannabis dispensaries and porn sites in the Bible.
Didn't Jesus supposedly turn water into wine? Sounds like God doesn't have much of a problem with alcohol, then.
Proverbs 23:20f: Do not mix with winebibbers, or gluttonous eaters of meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."
Isaiah 5:11f: "Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine. They have harps and lyres at their banquets, tambourines and flutes and wine, but they have no regard for the deeds of the LORD, no respect for the work of his hands."
Galatians 5:19–21: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: ... drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit."
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Proverbs 23:20f: Do not mix with winebibbers, or gluttonous eaters of meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."
Isaiah 5:11f: "Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine. They have harps and lyres at their banquets, tambourines and flutes and wine, but they have no regard for the deeds of the LORD, no respect for the work of his hands."
Galatians 5:19–21: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: ... drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit."

When quoting scripture one can always find contradictions:

Luke5 33Then they said to Him, “John’s disciples and those of the Pharisees frequently fast and pray, but Yours [Jesus disciples] keep on eating and drinking.”
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Name an ethical statement made or action performed by a person of faith that could not have been made or performed by a nonbeliever.

Name a wicked statement made or action performed precisely because of religious faith?
Define “of faith” and “nonbeliever.”
 

lukethethird

unknown member
So which is it then?

How about this religiously neutral piece of advice:

Matthew 71“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
 

DNB

Christian
How about this religiously neutral piece of advice:

Matthew 71“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
I don't believe that you comprehend either the context, nor the meaning of the word 'judge', ...amongst many other things related to theological issues.
 
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