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Bree

Active Member
Then they would have never gotten the opportunity to learn and grow. We have to take risks sometimes to get where we need to be.

are you happy with the way the world is today? War, crime, violence, hatred, racism, natural disasters, disease, death destruction. that's all they seemed to learn. Do you think that was a good choice?
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
are you happy with the way the world is today? War, crime, violence, hatred, racism, natural disasters, disease, death destruction. that's all they seemed to learn. Do you think that was a good choice?

In some ways it's better and some it's worse. Religion often causes these things, obviously not natural disasters, so I think if people followed the Golden Rule, which is in most religions, things would be better.
 

Bree

Active Member
In some ways it's better and some it's worse. Religion often causes these things, obviously not natural disasters, so I think if people followed the Golden Rule, which is in most religions, things would be better.

you really think its 'better' for the world to be full of war crime violent hatred etc? These things are better for us to have then to not have??

Let me tell you that Gods purpose overrides the 'preferences' of any human. God will ensure that his Garden of Eden is restrored and that the life he wanted for mankind will be the life we live. It has been foretold and it is as good as done

Revelation 21: 5 And the One seated on the throne+ said: “Look! I am making all things new.”+ Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful* and true.” ...7 Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
you really think its 'better' for the world to be full of war crime violent hatred etc? These things are better for us to have then to not have??

Let me tell you that Gods purpose overrides the 'preferences' of any human. God will ensure that his Garden of Eden is restrored and that the life he wanted for mankind will be the life we live. It has been foretold and it is as good as done

Revelation 21: 5 And the One seated on the throne+ said: “Look! I am making all things new.”+ Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful* and true.” ...7 Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

The Bible is full of war, violence and hatred, just from Yahweh alone. I sure can't wait until blood runs high as horse bridles. Good times...o_O
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
do you think its possible that if they had of stayed in Eden, they would not have died outside?
Catholics say; If Adam had not sinned we would not be here. His sin brought all of creation into a need for repair! God always brings good out of everything he repairs!
 

Bree

Active Member
The Bible is full of war, violence and hatred, just from Yahweh alone. I sure can't wait until blood runs high as horse bridles. Good times...o_O

thats because the bible is a recorded history lesson for us... .and one that people have not learnt from.

Be careful what you wish for lol
 

Bree

Active Member
Catholics say; If Adam had not sinned we would not be here. His sin brought all of creation into a need for repair! God always brings good out of everything he repairs!

is that because they say the the sin was 'sex' ??
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Two assumptions that may not be accurate
1. The definition of love in this case
2. That they have never "met" you to your best knowledge.

The mahatmas see you and may look over you without qualifying as a stalker. They will stop "stalking" you after they have made sure you are taken care of, in good hands, lead in a good direction and not misled into self-destruction etc.

They do this out of tremendous compassion.

If they do indeed stalk you, you are very fortunate :) and you don't even know it !
Sad. That person seems to have left. Why? Might it be because of your post there?
 

ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
Sad. That person seems to have left. Why? Might it be because of your post there?
The OP made only one thread and one post. The thread has 108 posts, and you selected mine (post #11) as the reason for her "leaving" ?
Further, my reply to Polymath's question was not against her OP - it was with the OP. Most others criticized, ridiculed, spoke against it whereas a few introduced Krishna.

And you say my post made her leave? May I ask why ? Is it because I called Jesus a Mahatma or one among multiple mahatmas? Mahatma means a great soul.

I think she just came to RF to say 'FYI, Jesus loves you.' She did not want to debate or discuss it.
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The OP made only one thread and one post. The thread has 108 posts, and you selected mine (post #11) as the reason for her "leaving" ?
Further, my reply to Polymath's question was not against her OP - it was with the OP. Most others criticized, ridiculed, spoke against it whereas a few introduced Krishna.

And you say my post made her leave? May I ask why ? Is it because I called Jesus a Mahatma or one among multiple mahatmas? Mahatma means a great soul.

I think she just came to RF to say 'FYI, Jesus loves you.' She did not want to debate or discuss it.
Complicated it is. I might but I might not...look up what you are talking about !
 

ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
Complicated it is. I might but I might not...look up what you are talking about !
First you have to see what Polymath wrote in post #10
Polymath declared that if Jesus loved him but he had never even met Jesus that is "stalking"!
So I explained why it isn't "stalking" and even if you considered it so -- you are fortunate if God / angels / mahatmas watch over you.

I think my post was very clear. If you don't want to be explicit in what you have in mind I am not going to worry about it, but thanks for your input.
I usually do not speak to Abrahamic faith threads, and with your input -- that makes it even more important not to. They are too touchy sensitive and complicated, and there is no real scope for interfaith discussion.
Dharma is simple, open and straight.
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
First you have to see what Polymath wrote in post #10
Polymath declared that if Jesus loved him but he had never even met Jesus that is "stalking"!
So I explained why it isn't "stalking" and even if you considered it so -- you are fortunate if God / angels / mahatmas watch over you.

I think my post was very clear. If you don't want to be explicit in what you have in mind I am not going to worry about it, but thanks for your input.
I usually do not speak to Abrahamic faith threads, and with your input -- that makes it even more important not to. They are too touchy sensitive and complicated, and there is no real scope for interfaith discussion.
Dharma is simple, open and straight.
OK. She/he only posted once. Did you notice that? Being your eyes on idols you might not have noticed.
 

ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
OK. She/he only posted once. Did you notice that?
Of course. Isn't that the first thing I said? -- looks like you did not read my post ? Your eyes were not on the post?
The OP made only one thread and one post. The thread has 108 posts, and you selected mine (post #11) as the reason for her "leaving" ?
I think she just came to RF to say 'FYI, Jesus loves you.' She did not want to debate or discuss it.

Are you saying this was a hacker or something?
 
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ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
No. I always assume that it is just someone who might want to be heard.
Yes, that is what I thought -- "FYI, Jesus loves you."
I have experience of that by the way - Jesus gave me darshan, and has made a difference. So I do not take it as just a sentence.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes, that is what I thought -- "FYI, Jesus loves you."
I have experience of that by the way - Jesus gave me darshan, and has made a difference. So I do not take it as just a sentence.
A sentence of death? Or, of the Future? What sentence, if you please?

I think that it is very fine that you teach that not believing in Jesus does not mean a sentnce of death.

I have observed that there are many souls who believe it. I do not know if I do or not because I don't care. I believe in it.
 

ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
A sentence of death? Or, of the Future? What sentence, if you please?

What? I was saying I do not take it lightly as a vain statement alone. I know Jesus loves me. He gave me darshan years ago and has made a difference.

*In fact, if this OP and thread was a msg to me (among others) that is very nice.

I think that it is very fine that you teach that not believing in Jesus does not mean a sentnce of death.

I have observed that there are many souls who believe it. I do not know if I do or not because I don't care. I believe in it.

First, I look at it differently. What is there to not believe? That he existed?
It is all a Leela of the same ParaBramhan and I am One with Brahman. Jesus, KRshNa, Rama, Datta, MAhadev, Shri is all expression of the same Divine ParaBrahman.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What? I was saying I do not take it lightly as a vain statement alone. I know Jesus loves me. He gave me darshan years ago.



First, I look at it differently. What is there to not believe? That he existed?
It is all a Leela of the same ParaBramhan and I am One with Brahman. Jesus, KRshNa, Rama, Datta, MAhadev, Shri is all expression of the same Divine ParaBrahman.
We do not know what darshan is. I think that is true of at least two of us!

Most of us do not know how to spell. Sigh!
 

ameyAtmA

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Premium Member
We do not know what darshan is. I think that is true of at least two of us!

Most of us do not know how to spell. Sigh!

Darshan means vision. I had a vision of him - very tall. He was sitting by my bedside. His blessings are with me.

:blush: Sorry about not translating that word earlier.
 
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