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Theists:
Please explain how and why God is good.
Because I'm having a bit of a crisis:
I believe in him but I am doubting he is good
Certainly as a concept "God" has done a lot of harm
But what about the nature of God himself, the actual existing being?
Hypothetical: If you take a walk in nature do you see more living things, or more dead things? If God were not good, we would be surrounded by death.Theists:
Please explain how and why God is good.
Because I'm having a bit of a crisis:
I believe in him but I am doubting he is good
Certainly as a concept "God" has done a lot of harm
But what about the nature of God himself, the actual existing being?
His nature is infinite space.Theists:
Please explain how and why God is good.
Because I'm having a bit of a crisis:
I believe in him but I am doubting he is good
Certainly as a concept "God" has done a lot of harm
But what about the nature of God himself, the actual existing being?
I look at it the other way around: Good is God. Or more precisely, love, forgiveness, kindness, generosity, honesty, wisdom, respect, gratitude, and so on, are all manifestations of a transcendent (divine) realm of being. The source of which would generally be referred to as "God". I don't allow mythical religious stories dictate to me what God is or does. They're just stories.Theists:
Please explain how and why God is good.
Because I'm having a bit of a crisis:
I believe in him but I am doubting he is good
Certainly as a concept "God" has done a lot of harm
But what about the nature of God himself, the actual existing being?
Yes, there has been a lot of harm based on people's idea of God's nature.Certainly as a concept "God" has done a lot of harm
But what about the nature of God himself, the actual existing being?
I am not sure that argument flies. Do you realize how many people and animals die every day, especially since this pandemic? Imo, the only way God could be good in light of all this this death is if the humans and animals go to a better place after they die. I know that people do but there are no assurances that animals do, since God never bothered to reveal that in any scriptures.Hypothetical: If you take a walk in nature do you see more living things, or more dead things? If God were not good, we would be surrounded by death.
Death is a part of the physical realm we living in, a part of life. how can that be God`s fault?I am not sure that argument flies. Do you realize how many people and animals die every day, especially since this pandemic? Imo, the only way God could be good in light of all this this death is if the humans and animals go to a better place after they die. I know that people do but there are no assurances that animals do, since God never bothered to reveal that in any scriptures.
Death is 100% God's fault because God created mortal creatures.Death is a part of the physical realm we living in, a part of life. how can that be God`s fault?
No, and I would never want to live in this world forever. Happiness, what's that?You expect to live forever in happiness in this world
Yes, it does, but heaven comes a day late and a dollar short as the saying goes.Does not the reward comes in heaven after we lived a human life?
Oh, I guess I should not have asked SorryDeath is 100% God's fault because God created mortal creatures.
No, and I would never want to live in this world forever. Happiness, what's that?
Yes, it does, but heaven comes a day late and a dollar short as the saying goes.
Why not ask? Now you know my perspective even it it is different from yours.Oh, I guess I should not have asked Sorry
It is true, we do see this world very differently, I do not see this physical world as the real world (called Dunya in Sufism) To me the real comes after this life.Why not ask? Now you know my perspective even it it is different from yours.
I look at things logically, not with faith. I have faith but it does not override my logical mind.
Even with those deaths, please forgive me for being gruesome, the bodies are not left out and about. When I said "we're not surrounded by death", I meant it.I am not sure that argument flies. Do you realize how many people and animals die every day, especially since this pandemic?
We do not see this world differently at all, I see this world the same way you see it....It is true, we do see this world very differently, I do not see this physical world as the real world (called Dunya in Sufism) To me the real comes after this life.
If you know and understand this, how come you so often seemingly being so angry at God so often then?We do not see this world differently at all, I see this world the same way you see it....
“The world is but a show, vain and empty, a mere nothing, bearing the semblance of reality. Set not your affections upon it. Break not the bond that uniteth you with your Creator, and be not of those that have erred and strayed from His ways. Verily I say, the world is like the vapor in a desert, which the thirsty dreameth to be water and striveth after it with all his might, until when he cometh unto it, he findeth it to be mere illusion.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 328-329
And like you, I know the real comes after this life....
“O My servants! Sorrow not if, in these days and on this earthly plane, things contrary to your wishes have been ordained and manifested by God, for days of blissful joy, of heavenly delight, are assuredly in store for you. Worlds, holy and spiritually glorious, will be unveiled to your eyes. You are destined by Him, in this world and hereafter, to partake of their benefits, to share in their joys, and to obtain a portion of their sustaining grace. To each and every one of them you will, no doubt, attain.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 329
I am not angry at God right now, and I am not angry at God much anymore, but I call it like I see it.If you know and understand this, how come you so often seemingly being so angry at God so often then?
Personally, I am not angry at God, not a single day am I angry at God.
I can not speak for others, but suffering to me (when I feel suffering) is a teaching that I do something incorrect according to the will of God, I am not with God in the moment of suffering, at the moment of suffering I am with the ego, and the ego telling me, You suffering because others are mean to you, or you suffer because you can not have what you want. But as soon as I stop, and look at the situation, I realize I am suffering because I am walking away from what God wants me to do.I am not angry at God right now, and I am not angry at God much anymore, but I call it like I see it.
If God is so good, why is there so much suffering in the world, and I mean the suffering that is not cause by human free will choices? There is no sufficient answer to this question except "just have faith."
I have been angry at God but you can never understand why. I could try to explain it to you but words cannot convey what it is like to go through what I have endured for most of my life and what I am still going through.
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That might work for you, but it will never work for everyone, because all humans are different and their life circumstances are also very different.I can not speak for others, but suffering to me (when I feel suffering) is a teaching that I do something incorrect according to the will of God, I am not with God in the moment of suffering, at the moment of suffering I am with the ego, and the ego telling me, You suffering because others are mean to you, or you suffer because you can not have what you want. But as soon as I stop, and look at the situation, I realize I am suffering because I am walking away from what God wants me to do.
So the only one who can get me out of feeling suffering is my own action, speech or thoughts.
That is very trueThat might work for you, but it will never work for everyone, because all humans are different and their life circumstances are also very different.