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The Devil allows freedom of all false religions but not the true one.

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Majority of Americans should wake up and retake their country. You believe in Jesus then implement his teachings in government. It's better than this secular deception of Magog that many of your fellow Christians tried to expose but were labelled nutty conspiracy theorists. Christians, take your country back.

You have the right to believe in Gospels and act on them in government. Legislate by what you believe is true, not what you are forced to do by the system and pressure from a minority.

Believe in God and do your best to restore government as much as to him as possible in legislation, spirit and motive.
 

TagliatelliMonster

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We know that's your democracy. But ours is giving majority what they want.

//facepalm

So in "your" democracy, if 90% of the people want to kill the other 10%, they should be allowed to do so?

You can take that "democracy" and stick it where the sun don't shine.

You may also stop trying to lecture us on human rights.

You guys to protect your sorcerers clever taking over the world with breaking the old ways of marriage and family unit, with sexual corruption, and all to sneak propaganda for homosexuals, had to sneak it all against the wishes of the majority of that generation. And they are watching the new generation get lost with your sneak propaganda and can't stop it, because the power structure from education to everything, is in the hands of Magog who are followers of Gog/Abu Lahab of the time.

You're hatred of the west (or anything non-islamic, or should I say non-islamic-that-you-approve-off), is noted.


We don't accept your model, we agree minorities should be protected, but if majority don't believe in same-sex marriage, we won't acknowledge it. They can do whatever they want in private, but don't ask to acknowledge it nor tolerate it in public view.

What about if the majority doesn't believe in sitting on the same bench as black folks?
Or what if the majority doesn't believe in sharing a bench on the bus with a black person?

Bring apartheid back? You'ld be fine with that then, I guess.

Again, you should stop lecturing people on human rights.
If this is the "utopian" civilization you claim is going to take over the world, then I sincerely hope me (and my kids) are long dead by that time, so that we don't have to suffer the same kind of nastyness that our grandparents have died over to fight against.

The nonsense you are spewing here is nothing short of despicable.

This is our way.

You can have your way.
In fact, you do have your way in your middle eastern theocracies, where human rights are trampled every other day.

Meanwhile, the rest of the civilized world has an immigration problem from all the people trying to get away from those barbaric societies.
 

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Premium Member
You change the views of majority where they are wrong. But the majority get to implement what they want unless they want a republic and trust another. It's their choice.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
So you are justifying discrimination in public service environments against Muslim women

It's not discrimination. It goes for any and all religious affiliation.
Town halls over here also don't have christmass trees, for example.

Guys like you just like to play the victim card because you always think everything is only about you.
Read the actual law instead of your silly propaganda sites. Nowhere does it mention "islam" or "muslim" or "hijab".

who choose to obey God's commands in Quran about Hijaab. See this is extreme secularism.

Nobody forces them to work for a secular government.
If you wish to work in public service, then you can't exhibit religious affiliation while on the job.
This goes for everyone - not just muslims.

Don't like it? Find another job.

It's not discrimination if it applies to EVERYONE.
 

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Also, it's wrong to kill minorities for religion, etc, and freedom of religion should be allowed. The thing is with Islamic laws, we don't make up this, it's that we submit to God that freedom of religion should be allowed and expression (freedom of speech) except harmful speech, should be allowed.
 

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Believe it or not, France gets to make the laws for France.
Your disliking that fact is your problem, not mine.
Or Frances.
It's okay, we can remind Muslims this is what will happen in secularism version of governments. It just makes us more aware and stronger in our resolve to take God as our ruler and not corrupt people.
 

Link

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I'd rather be a barbarian that is upright in submitting to God then an arrogant snob who submits to deceivers, and thinks they are better guided then believers.
 

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And the misrepresentation just continues.....................

Tell me, is lying and bearing false witness acceptable in your religion?

I am paraphrasing what the guy said, France country, France rules. But we don't even accept countries in Quran, the Quran is clear, natives are right, the land belongs to God, there should be no countries. God rules the whole earth and inherits the earth from Adam down to the Mahdi to who he pleases.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
ROTFLMAO

You can't even get control of your little island.
So how can you expect anyone to take your threats of world domination seriously?
And none can stand against the atheist takeover.

Caution:
That was a mirth injection.
We need to lighten up in this thread.
It's on the verge of getting locked...so says my spidersense.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
You change the views of majority where they are wrong. But the majority get to implement what they want unless they want a republic and trust another. It's their choice.

So if the majority of let's say, the US, decides that all muslims in the country should be shot and the corpses put in some hole and burned... You feel like the "right thing to do", the "democractic thing to do" would be to go through with it?

You would prefer that over a democracy which would actually protect the rights of the minority?


:rolleyes:

Do you think things through before you post them?
It doesn't sound like it.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Also, it's wrong to kill minorities for religion, etc, and freedom of religion should be allowed.

Ow?

That is in direct contradiction with your "version" of democracy, where the majority gets to do whatever the majority wants, by virtue of it being the majority.

Now you are saying that the minority should be protected by the majority.
So make up your mind.

The thing is with Islamic laws, we don't make up this, it's that we submit to God that freedom of religion should be allowed and expression (freedom of speech) except harmful speech, should be allowed.

Yet you complain when sites filled with hatespeech and harmfull speech, are shut down.

You are all over the place.
 

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Let's duke it out peacefully and give freedom of people to choose. But no, the west can't let that, minority rights over majority democracy model gone to exteme, let's oppress majority, put people trying to overthrow dictators in jail, all to keep the peace and justice you guys have right?

And if you believe in one nation Muslims should unite on, you are an extremist, big one, trying to take people back centuries right? This is all dying, we will have our Muslim state, and I don't mind a Sunni scholar implementing shariah to the best of his knowledge as long as they allow dialogue with respect to it and allow people to choose government, I don't mind. Freedom of religions should be allowed.

The only Muslims who don't want this, is Wahabi Saudi Arabia people who are minority in bed with US and Israel thinking it will help them, but it's doing the opposite. Shiism is picking up more due to them selling their souls to the devil.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I am paraphrasing what the guy said, France country, France rules. But we don't even accept countries in Quran, the Quran is clear, natives are right, the land belongs to God, there should be no countries. God rules the whole earth and inherits the earth from Adam down to the Mahdi to who he pleases.

So, should France then view you as hostile to the state?
 

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Premium Member
Ow?

That is in direct contradiction with your "version" of democracy, where the majority gets to do whatever the majority wants, by virtue of it being the majority.

Now you are saying that the minority should be protected by the majority.
So make up your mind.



Yet you complain when sites filled with hatespeech and harmfull speech, are shut down.

You are all over the place.

There are exceptions all the time. Should racism be allowed to be taught if there is people who believe that? I don't think so. University and schools should not allow racism to be taught in my view.

But religions should be allowed, and we should should be able to dialogue.

And sexual corruption should not be allowed in public.
 

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Premium Member
So, should France then view you as hostile to the state?

Yes all governments of magog under Gog/Abu Lahab of the time, should see me hostile - but I am hostile in a peaceful way. I want to convince the people to be ruled by God's light and government and his book revealed to humanity, and the insights provided by the family of the reminder should be taken to help implement justice. I am your enemy in this sense, but, I will contribute to society, help poor of your society, try to help raise awareness of mental illness and solutions for it, etc, I am not hostile as in I am not going to arm a militia and fight you guys.

I am peacefully opposing your governments.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Let's duke it out peacefully and give freedom of people to choose. But no, the west can't let that, minority rights over majority democracy model gone to exteme, let's oppress majority, put people trying to overthrow dictators in jail, all to keep the peace and justice you guys have right?

I have no idea what your point is here. What are you trying to say?
Sounds like you are seriously mixing up issues to the extend where it becomes mere word salad about nothing.

And if you believe in one nation Muslims should unite on, you are an extremist, big one, trying to take people back centuries right? This is all dying, we will have our Muslim state, and I don't mind a Sunni scholar implementing shariah to the best of his knowledge as long as they allow dialogue with respect to it and allow people to choose government, I don't mind. Freedom of religions should be allowed.

"freedom of religion should be allowed", but the form of government MUST be a sunni theocracy (that you approve of)?

:rolleyes:

Secularism was invented exactly for the purpose of granting true freedom of religion.
People like you tend to think that "secularism" means "anti-religion". It doesn't mean that at all.

Yes, part of secularism is to protect government from religious influence. But also the other way round: to keep government out of religion.

There is MUCH MORE freedom of religion in any secular democracy then there has ever been in any theocracy. Including those that exist today in the middle east.

The only Muslims who don't want this, is Wahabi Saudi Arabia people who are minority in bed with US and Israel thinking it will help them, but it's doing the opposite. Shiism is picking up more due to them selling their souls to the devil.

Your sectarian hatred is also noted.
 
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