Thanks for proving my point. Turning something objectively awful and horrible and attempting to twist it into something defensible. It's not. Self-defense or not, those little ones are innocent, and clearly by the violence we still see in the Middle East today this endless cycle of killing and revenge has gotten that place absolutely nowhere.
Look when I go to the toilet, I do something abhorrent, awful, just terrible. It smells.
And when I am angry because someone beat me, I also say abhorrent things.
Both is understandable.
As a human being you just cannot refrain from being angry.
Even if you say you would remain fair in a situation in which they slaughter your child, make you watch and afterwards blind you... then I can perfectly understand people that have the wish to abandon fairness.
You can't understand. I can.
Yes I know slaughtering children is wrong.
Yet being angry is not. And when you're subjected to violence, it is only understandable when someone gets angry and says things that normally they wouldn't say.
I don't appreciate you assuming how I would act.
I didn't assume anything, it was an honest question.
That doesn't really state much,
it says 'because of the expected time of hardship'. That's much.
Even if it's not about persecution, it's about poverty, and Paul advises everyone to remain unmarried while in poverty.
I can understand that.
I would also remain unmarried in that situation.
It is not "horrible", "unexcusable" "defending the undefensible"... I just find it trustworthy and honest by Paul to issue such an advice.
It's not only Paul that does so, I think.
If you can't provide, don't start a family.
This is smart, as I see it!
Here in Germany, for instance, I really have trouble getting a wife, they all criticise my financial background at the moment.
I'm a musician. I am happy and I praise the Lord, but the women I dated want more.
That's how it is. At least in Germany.
That has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12 [...]
in equality, Shadow.
so the women at church need to say what they want in exchange. If they can't speak up at church then they can be the church elders and speak in the backoffice.
From my experience, women are rare that want to be church elders, though. They know that the church board would count one person, if only women are admitted. So they don't say anything when there are more men than women in the curch board.
Bible verses can only be true all at the same time, I think.
You can cite these verses a hundred times... and yet they won't undo Galatians 3:28, equality.
Anyway: when the woman is happy at church, she is happy.
From my experience in the churches: they often do criticise machos and these things.
However, they are far more likely to exerce ciriticism when the pastor does not have time for them. This is the standard issue to face when it comes to what women typically complain about in the churches.
This is at least from my experience.
Does it matter? The point is, you get it right this life or you are punished in some way (the Bible is inconsistent about how), and punished for all eternity. Forever and ever, all because you failed to get it right during your 70-80 years or so.
well that's
your assumption. You have nothing to show that after these 70-80 years they won't commit a punishable sin anymore.