King Phenomenon
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I'm grateful to know that I am going to heaven when I die. I don't think about dying much. I live for today and try to enjoy life to its fullest.
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I am pleased to hear that you feel secure in this regard.I'm grateful to know that I am going to heaven when I die. I don't think about dying much. I live for today and try to enjoy life to its fullest.
Does this belief in heaven come from the Bible? If so, where?I'm grateful to know that I am going to heaven when I die. I don't think about dying much. I live for today and try to enjoy life to its fullest.
That reminds of a great old song, in more than one wayI'm grateful to know that I am going to heaven when I die. I don't think about dying much. I live for today and try to enjoy life to its fullest.
I like the sound of the word. Yeah it's probably rooted in studying ChristianityDoes this belief in heaven come from the Bible? If so, where?
Eternity is awesome in my eyes but I respect that you think it's tortureI am pleased to hear that you feel secure in this regard.
I've kind of gone the other direction, though, in that I feel OK about ceasing to exist, completely, if that is what happens. I would not want to exist without end, as that would seem to me like it would become a form of torture, eventually. Interminable boredom. Also, I like the idea that the matter and energy that is currently occupied as being "me" will be freed up and dispersed to become other things. So that all forms of existence get their chance to exist, for as long as they are able, and then pass away to make room for more. This feels somehow equitable, and purposeful, to me.
True!as that would seem to me like it would become a form of torture, eventually. Interminable boredom.
I'm grateful to know that I am going to heaven when I die. I don't think about dying much. I live for today and try to enjoy life to its fullest.
That's a wonderful religion. Based on the sound of words.I like the sound of the word. Yeah it's probably rooted in studying Christianity
If possible, imagine a different state of consciousness you've not had, a better one. And then another. And then another. (not easy, unless you tried before, I suppose)True!
How many times can you get your cheeks pinched by Auntie Edna? How many times can you travel through a black hole and still be amazed? You can do that and everything else you can imagine ten million times in less than .00000000001% of eternity.
Then what!
Finally, to guess that there are only finite number of states of consciousness isn't a realistic seeming guess either, for that matter. But I expect some of them are of a quality one wouldn't want them to end and be replaced by another.
And you could experience all of them in a tiny fraction of infinite time. Then what? Do it all over again? How many times would you repeat them before becoming bored? But given infinite time, you would become bored. If you don't believe that, it is because are unable to comprehend the concept of infinite time.
And you could experience all of them in a tiny fraction of infinite time. Then what? Do it all over again? How many times would you repeat them before becoming bored? But given infinite time, you would become bored. If you don't believe that, it is because are unable to comprehend the concept of infinite time.
Real question to you: Why limit yourself, your life, your experiences, so severely? I'm not suggesting a drug, though I don't try to judge that, but even just merely taking time to stare at the sky for a while or something (bath, music, running, whatever), can be helpful to people to better their conscious state. If life seems like you'd not want to continue it after 4.32 bn years or after 2.5 minutes (I'm serious here), perhaps the problem is not being willing to experience the new.
But that's only another form of assuming God isn't God, or doesn't exist, etc. In other words, it tends into a circular reasoning. Best would be to admit it's all just an unknown, instead of using whatever assumptions, such as God not existing, to reason it out.
"Allah" is Arabic for "God", and Christians that speak Arabic use "Allah" for God. It's good though to beware of ego -- "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Even a non believer though can value humility/modesty, which common to many of those accomplishing the most. Have a good day.You accusing me of using circular reasoning to come to the conclusion that there are no gods is really hilarious.
Are you just assuming that Shiva is not a real god?
Are you just assuming that Allah is not a real god?
Are millions of Hindus and Muslims just assuming that your god does not exist?
Why do you assume that I am making an assumption that gods don't exist? Is that your ego talking again?
You, without any evidence except some stories compiled into a couple of books, believe in a very specific god.
You, without any evidence except some stories compiled into a couple of books, believe in heaven and eternal life after life.
You, without any evidence, make up stories about what is or is not possible in that after life.
You accusing me of using circular reasoning to come to the conclusion that there are no gods is really hilarious.
Are you just assuming that Shiva is not a real god?
Are you just assuming that Allah is not a real god?
Are millions of Hindus and Muslims just assuming that your god does not exist?
Why do you assume that I am making an assumption that gods don't exist? Is that your ego talking again?
"Allah" is Arabic for "God", and Christians that speak Arabic use "Allah" for God. It's good though to beware of ego -- "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Even a non believer though can value humility/modesty, which common to many of those accomplishing the most. Have a good day.
You, without any evidence except some stories compiled into a couple of books, believe in a very specific god.
You, without any evidence except some stories compiled into a couple of books, believe in heaven and eternal life after life.
You, without any evidence, make up stories about what is or is not possible in that after life.
Is your belief in an afterlife evidence based, faith based, or wishful thinking?I like the sound of the word. Yeah it's probably rooted in studying Christianity
I know there's a heaven and I'll be with my love ones in spiritIs your belief in an afterlife evidence based, faith based, or wishful thinking?
What do you imagine the afterlife/Heaven will be like? Will you be the same person?
Doesn't answer the question.I know there's a heaven
What does "in spirit" mean? Incorporeal?and I'll be with my love ones in spirit