If God existed, would there be any atheists?

[Trailblazer]

If God existed, would there be any atheists?

This is a yes or no question, so please answer yes or no.

If you answer yes, please explain why there would still be atheists if God existed.

If you answer no, please explain why there would be no more atheists if God existed.

Thanks, Trailblazer

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, religion shows that even proof does not need to be believed.

 

[Valjean]

Not a yes or no question. It depends on the god.
An active, involved god, who wants people to know of him, might be expected to clearly announce himself.
An uninvolved, deistic god, on the other hand, would likely have no interest in making himself known.

 

[icehorse]

If God existed, would there be any atheists?

This is a yes or no question, so please answer yes or no.

If you answer yes, please explain why there would still be atheists if God existed.

If you answer no, please explain why there would be no more atheists if God existed.

Thanks, Trailblazer

If you want a yes or no answer, you have to give us the definition of "god" that you're using when you pose the question

 

[Hellbound Serpiente]

Yes, because some people are slaves of their egos, and ego hate God [and everything spiritual in nature].

Some people tend to look at the world with narrow, colored lenses. Anything that goes against their idealized notions is either positively rejected and/or twisted to fit lenses they wish to view reality. Such people will deny God and/or anything that goes against their narrow scope of reality.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes, religion shows that even proof does not need to be believed.

So, what you are saying is that even if religion is proof that God exists, not everyone will believe in religion.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If God existed, would there be any atheists?

This is a yes or no question, so please answer yes or no.

If you answer yes, please explain why there would still be atheists if God existed.

If you answer no, please explain why there would be no more atheists if God existed.

Thanks, Trailblazer

Yes. Because God is an atheist.

 

[John53]

Which God?

 

[Trailblazer]

Not a yes or no question. It depends on the god.
An active, involved god, who wants people to know of him, might be expected to clearly announce himself.
An uninvolved, deistic god, on the other hand, would likely have no interest in making himself known.

I understand your point, and thanks for pointing that out.

It could go either way, depending upon whether God wanted to be known.
The answer all depends upon whether God wants to be known, because God is in charge of making Himself known.

An active, involved god, who wants people to know of him might be expected to clearly announce himself, but not necessarily. It is entirely possible that a God who wants to be known would provide evidence and expect us to look at the evidence. This evidence could either be believed or disbelieved, so there would always be atheists even if God exists.

The only way I can see that there would not be any atheists is if:
1. Everyone believed the evidence God provided, or
2. God made His presence a fact by showing up on earth.

 

[Trailblazer]

If you want a yes or no answer, you have to give us the definition of "god" that you're using when you pose the question

This would be an All-Powerful, All-Knowing, and All-wise God, the Abrahamic kind of God.

Basically this is an opinion question, because nobody can prove it would be yes or no.

 

[sun rise]

Yes because God exists and there are atheists.

Explanation: in the course of many lifetimes of reincarnation, people explore every possible take on various aspects of life. Atheism is a virtue in that people focus on caring about the truth. Atheists don't accept "because the Bible tells me so" or any such formulations. They want irrefutable proof before they'll accept the reality of Divinity and do that by taking the position there's no such thing even to the extent of not caring about the question (because the answer is obviously 'no'.)

 

[icehorse]

This would be an All-Powerful, All-Knowing, and All-wise God, the Abrahamic kind of God.

Basically this is an opinion question, because nobody can prove it would be yes or no.

Got it. From what I know of the Abrahamic god, he might well create atheists. Because he's vindictive and petty, he might do that just so that he can torture them, sigh.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes, because some people are slaves of their egos, and ego hate God [and everything spiritual in nature].

Some people tend to look at the world with narrow, colored lenses. Anything that goes against their idealized notions is either positively rejected and/or twisted to fit lenses they wish to view reality. Such people will deny God and/or anything that goes against their narrow scope of reality.

That is an excellent answer.
So, the only way this could ever change in which case there would be no atheists is if people change and become more spiritual. I believe that this will happen in the future, because it is in various Scriptures that everyone will believe in God in the future..

I do not think that all atheists hate God or that all atheists are narrow-minded, I think most atheists are sincere and just do not see the evidence for God as evidence for God. So what would need to change for all atheists to become believers is that this evidence would have to be believed in by everyone. Exactly how that will come to pass I do not know, but I think God will be involved.

 

[ChristineM]

So, what you are saying is that even if religion is proof that God exists, not everyone will believe in religion.

Just as now there is no proof of gods but people believe in gods

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes. Because God is an atheist.

That would mean that God does not know He exists. I find that rather impossible.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes because God exists and there are atheists.

But if you were an atheist you could say God does not exist and that is why there are atheists, because you might believe that God would make sure everyone knows He exists if He exists.

 

[Trailblazer]

Got it. From what I know of the Abrahamic god, he might well create atheists. Because he's vindictive and petty, he might do that just so that he can torture them, sigh.

But how could God create atheists, unless God took over their free will and forced them to be atheists?
Why would God do that, unless God wanted some people to NOT believe in Him, and why would God want that?

 

[icehorse]

But how could God create atheists, unless God took over their free will and forced them to be atheists?
Why would God do that, unless God wanted some people to NOT believe in Him, and why would God want that?

Well - just one example - in the Quran, Allah is described as doing just what you just said.

 

[Trailblazer]

Which God?

The Abrahamic God, the God who is All-Powerful, All-Knowing, and All-Wise.

 

[Trailblazer]

Well - just one example - in the Quran, Allah is described as doing just what you just said.

I do not know the Qur'an very well.... Can you post some verses as examples of what you are saying?