A huge problem with the JW religion:

[sojourner]

I believe Jesus-- Matthew 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

I don’t believe you’re “seeking the kingdom.” I believe from reading your posts, that you’re seeking validation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don’t believe you’re “seeking the kingdom.” I believe from reading your posts, that you’re seeking validation.

Far too many are looking for excuses to maintain their current belief rather than learning whether their beliefs are right or wrong.

 

[sojourner]

You cant prove a single word of it false. You listen to blind guides to appease your false reasonings.

Of course we can. We have the archaeological and anthropological record to provide evidence. There is NO evidence of a mass invasion of Israelites into Canaan. There is LOTS of evidence that they were always there.

 

[sojourner]

I have the teachings of Jesus to back my faith.

No. You don’t. The teachings come through Apostolic tradition, which you have denied.

 

[kjw47]

I was under the impression that Jesus (God Incarnate) expiated human sin. Unless, of course, his sacrifice was ineffectual.

Jesus isn't God, a lie brought in by the religion that came out of Rome by satans will. Now 2 billion are mislead into serving a non existent God, breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. Jesus died for repented sin, not willfull or practiced sin.

 

[kjw47]

Fine, believe that if you want to. But that does not mean that the Bible is proven true, especially when so many parts of it have been proven false. A all or nothing interpretation of the Bible leads only to refutation. A wise Christian realizes that some parts are not meant to be read literally.

Few on earth know bible truth. False reasonings have mislead the majority.

 

[kjw47]

I was unaware that God “uses mathematics.” Why would God have any need for such a human construct?

Math plays a role in everything--especially in creation.

 

[kjw47]

....or, it was a happy accident.

happy accident = 0 chance

 

[kjw47]

Please, now you are breaking the Ninth Commandment. Just because you can't prove part of it false that does not mean that others cannot. You are also accusing others of your own sins. That should have been the 11 Commandment:

"Thou shalt not accuse others of your own wrong doings."

If you think that this is true then you should be willing to discuss it. Making obviously false statements and running away is tacitly admitting that one is wrong.

Its you who cannot prove the bible false. You can only twist what is said like many before you. That is why there are 34,000 different religions claiming to be Christian--Jesus started-1-- on earth today--Jesus is with-1 religion.

 

[kjw47]

That is pretty weak sauce especially when they are not Jesus's teachings. You go by your interpretations of Jesus's teachings. You should realize that there are others, some of them clearly superior to yours. You ignore part of his teachings because of your particular religion, which has all of the qualifications of a cult.

Called a cult by blind guides who do not have the real Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

The Bible is speaking metaphorically and mythically, not historically.

The bible is an account of mans history-- Archelogists have proved much of it to be truth.

 

[kjw47]

Who decides who’s “real” and who’s not? What’s the universal consensus on this? What are the standards for making that determination? Who adjudicates? Who sets those standards? If you can’t adequately answer those questions, then you have no basis for determining that your teachers are “real.”

99% of mortals are blind as bats, living in darkness--there is no universal consensus. The real teachers that Jesus appointed have truth revealed through them. 1 single religion.

 

[kjw47]

Where is THAT written???

The word of God is clear. No one will ever say I am sick in Gods kingdom. Gods real plan for mortals and his earth. His original plan.

 

[kjw47]

Scholastically untenable. And a load of hubris. No self-respecting bible scholar takes the NWT seriously. for a whole lotta reasons.

Because they do not have Jesus-- they have lies handed down for the last 1750 years. How do those self respecting scholars get by the facts and the teachings of Jesus that prove them absolutely wrong? They do pull in billions every year lying to humans that practice sin and tell them--you are saved or born again( its pure lie, and they know it)--truth would stop that.

undeniable fact= Every bible writer was taught a single being God--When Jesus attended the Israelite places of worship his first 30 years was taught a single being God. Not one of them ever denied that God, they taught the true God. Jesus even tells them( John 20:17, Rev 3:12) -- they will not listen to Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

God bases forgiveness within human relationships and support systems. “It is not good for the man to be alone...”

One of my “57 Reasons” why the NWT is less than acceptable.

God does not forgive--the unrepentant.

 

[kjw47]

Why do you think that we don’t “believe Jesus?” I assert that we certainly do believe Jesus.

John 20:17, Rev 3:12--No you don't.

 

[kjw47]

We don’t need God to do that. We have minds to look at the evidence critically. These are mythic tales that were “borrowed” from earlier Mid Eastern religions.

That is what the darkness teaches.

 

[kjw47]

It’s clear that religious leaders had that will — but not so clear that it was “God’s will.” Nonetheless, as I said earlier: if it’s abuse, it’s a pretty clear case that it’s not “God’s will.”

Its not abuse only in false reasonings of ones who point the finger everywhere but at self. Being stoned to death one can never repent. Being disfellowshipped--one can repent and turn back. Its all on self to do so. Self is the blame for being disfellowshipped--no one elses. They point the finger at every one else.

 

[kjw47]

Except that you’re not “stating facts”; you are judging.

I know I state facts--over 50 years of study into facts.

 

[kjw47]

Oh? It’s “FACT?” Show me the uncontested statistics. Prove. It. If you can’t, then it’s not a “FACT,” it’s an opinion. You state opinion.


...in your opinion. In your understanding. Perhaps you misunderstood? Or perhaps you’re not well-versed enough in theology to form a valid opinion?

Well then. What is your problem--Jesus is 100% clear at John 17:1-6,26--The one who sent him= Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. verse 6 = YHVH(Jehovah) 26 = YHVH(Jehovah)

Why do you refuse to believe him, just like the blind guide scholars you listen to??? WHY????