I can understand my dog or cat because animals are an order of creation that is below the human level. Each level of creation can only understand what is on their level or below their level, not what is above their level.
Can a plant understand an animal? Can a mineral understand a plant?
God is the Creator, like the painter who painted the painting. Can a painting understand the painter?
God is so far above all His creatures, exalted beyond human understanding, and that is why nobody can understand God without an Intermediary. This is what I believe because it makes logical sense to me.
Imo, beliefs do not preclude Discovery. It is not an either/or. We can have beliefs and still make discoveries.
What do you think the Real Truth is? How do you think you can Discover the Real Truth?
Logically speaking, if two different people say they have Discovered the Real Truth, and those Truths differ, how can we know which one has the Real Truth?
Imo, God decided this and that is why God sends Messengers. The only way to know how God’s system works at all is through what the Messengers reveal in scriptures.
Do you even know how God's system really works or are you making rules in order that you can justify your beliefs? How can you know any of this just by looking around in the world?
I think Messengers are needed for humanity as a whole to survive and thrive and progress spiritually, but if some people do not recognize them and believe in them, those people can still grow spiritually and learn their lessons by living. Moreover, we all learn our lessons by living in this world, whether we believe in Messenger or not.
Your quote: Can a mineral understand a plant?
MY ANSWER: These are not children of God. How can they understand anything?
Your quote:Can a painting understand the painter?
MY ANSWER: A painting is not a child of God.
Your quote:God is so far above all His creatures, exalted beyond human understanding, and that is why nobody can understand God without an Intermediary.
MY ANSWER: Is this just an excuse to let others do the work for you? Can you really be satisfied with mere Beliefs? Beliefs an intermediary is needed. Beliefs this intermediary comes from God just because he says he does. Beliefs this intermediary knows what he is talking about.
This is the very thing I could never do. Cause I said so would never be the end even if that belief was what I wanted to hear. That is our difference. I am one who will not depend on beliefs. Beliefs merely point a direction by which one needs to search in order to Discover the Real Truth.
Maybe one needs to reach that point before one can really Discover anything and that's in all fields.
Your quote:beliefs do not preclude Discovery.
MY ANSWER: I suppose there are times people stumble on Discoveries. On the other hand, most Discoveries start out with beliefs then comes the work it takes to confirm that those beliefs are the Real Truth.
Your quote:What do you think the Real Truth is? How do you think you can Discover the Real Truth?
MY ANSWER: Want the Real Truth? How long you got? On the other hand, it would be merely a Belief for you unless you took the effort to Discover the Real Truth yourself.
Your quote:Logically speaking, if two different people say they have Discovered the Real Truth, and those Truths differ, how can we know which one has the Real Truth?
MY ANSWER: This is easy. The one telling you the real truth will point the direction by which you can Discover the Real Truth for yourself. Religion has corrupted the minds of so many when they teach people to value Beliefs over all else. It is really a selfish and evil thing to do. On the other hand, it is a lesson many need to learn. When one relies on blind beliefs, one can end up anywhere.
Your quote:The only way to know how God’s system works at all is through what the Messengers reveal in scriptures.
MY ANSWER: This is the way to know what another person Believes is God's system. They do not know God's system. Their beliefs do not add up. It reflects them, not God. Look at the system itself. The answers and Real Truth stare us in the face.
Your quote:How can you know any of this just by looking around in the world?
MY ANSWER: Have you ever put a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle together? You will be lost at first, however, in time, the pieces will come together to reveal the Truth.
OK, let's be smart. In searching for the Truth one must be open to Truth one might not readily agree with. One must be open. Since all the physics add up completely, so must everything about God since physics reflect God's actions. Ebb and Flow of true knowledge. Example: If I were to build a car, every car will carry certain things: I place to sit, an engine, steering. Get the point.
No one pointed the direction for me. Perhaps that is why God stopped in when God saw my progress.
Figure out how it all works. Knowing the system will show you it's creator. It's not what those holy books are teaching. On the other hand they might have pieces within them, but holy books reflect mankind. God's actions reflect only God. I guess it comes down to what one wants. I wanted to know the Real Truth.
Your quote:I think Messengers are needed for humanity
MY ANSWER: Messengers are regular people. They speak for themselves, not God. Keep that in mind. God is above those petty things mankind holds so dear in those holy books. That is how I know they are not God.
Well, That is what I am seeing. It's very clear.
I make no demands on anyone. Be who you must! It's a part of the plan! I realize the journey to Discovery I mention isn't easy. It might be beyond many. On the other hand, I think everyone can learn something watching God's actions.