I thought abortion was between the child and the doctor? I guess parents of 14 year olds are irrelevant? And sex-trade helped by Planned Parenthood by not reporting?
Heart wrenching!
Heart wrenching!
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Planned Parenthood at it again!
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steveb1
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PP has ventured too far across the line in its support of, and referrals to, abortion.
I am ambivalent on the abortion question, but I do classify it as outside the normative parameters of birth control. Once you want, or need, a pregnancy termination, you've moved out of the purview of birth control, because the insemination-zygote-embryo-fetal process has already begun, with all the potential blessings and problems that it carries with it.
I am ambivalent on the abortion question, but I do classify it as outside the normative parameters of birth control. Once you want, or need, a pregnancy termination, you've moved out of the purview of birth control, because the insemination-zygote-embryo-fetal process has already begun, with all the potential blessings and problems that it carries with it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's the Socialists advocating that kids aren't your own. The kids are theirs, not yours to tell what they can and cannot do.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
So? Unless there are signs of abuse, no healthcare provider can disclose information the patient hasn't authorized, and this includes the healthcare of minors in disclosing information to the parents? Are you shaming them for following law?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
California im pretty sure is more lenient than Indiana or comes to spanking your kids.
Well a person’s privacy is a matter of law. Pretty sure that extends to minors.
I don’t recall needing permission from a parent or guardian to get medical treatment of any kind, at any point in my life. I’m sure abortions fall under that category. My body, my health, my information. My parents were never once consulted for any medical treatment. Once I hit age like 10 or 12 or something, my mother had to wait outside whenever I had to visit the doctor. That was for legal reasons. Either that or my GP really valued the privacy ethics oath thing strenuously.
I’m unsure of the specific nuances of American law, but unless they suspect abuse, I think their hands are tied. To disclose a patient’s personal information, even to their guardians/parents, is likely highly illegal.
I don’t recall needing permission from a parent or guardian to get medical treatment of any kind, at any point in my life. I’m sure abortions fall under that category. My body, my health, my information. My parents were never once consulted for any medical treatment. Once I hit age like 10 or 12 or something, my mother had to wait outside whenever I had to visit the doctor. That was for legal reasons. Either that or my GP really valued the privacy ethics oath thing strenuously.
I’m unsure of the specific nuances of American law, but unless they suspect abuse, I think their hands are tied. To disclose a patient’s personal information, even to their guardians/parents, is likely highly illegal.
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God help us!
So... they need parental permission to get married under the age of 16-18 but no permission needed to have sex and get an abortion... something just doesn't add up.
Actually, if you listen to the video one person says "This is how you can skirt the law". And by law, an underage pregnancy should be reported in case of rape or sex trade.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The very fact that they're doing business with a minor is highly illegal in itself. I would wager Planned Parenthood could be successfully sued for everything they're worth.
In the US minors cannot enter contracts or agreements much less a healthcare authorization for a procedure.
Parents have a right to know what their own children are doing at all times until they're of age and you don't have to be a parent to realize that.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Curious George
Veteran Member
Parents or guardians have rights regarding access to records and information. The exact ins and outs vary by both age and location. But kids rights are more limited than adults. This doesn't mean that kids have no rights as many seem to think.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Apparently.
I'd like to see somebody try to do that in the 80s what they're doing right now.
It's more than clear that over the years , parents have less and less control of their children as each decade goes by with more and more laws being created to ensure that it stays that way.
Curious George
Veteran Member
This isn't a since the 80's things. The right to contract is a well defined, respected and litigated right in the U.S. many contracts with children are not necessarily binding on the child as the child in most cases presumptively lacks the capacity to contract. Children in most cases cannot void contracts for necessities.
Adults who enter into contracts with children are usually still bound by the contractual terms unless the child voids the contract or there is some other defense against the contract.
So yes people can contract with children. Yes in some but not all cases children can void the contracts. Is medical care, including abortion, a necessity? That is a much more interesting question.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yeah Guardians with children can enter contracts , but you won't see any children legally entering contracts by themselves.
A minor cannot have the capacity to enter any contract on their own. If one is made then it is not legally binding and the minor can dismiss it.
Who Lacks the Capacity to Contract?
How Planned Parenthood can get away with it without parental authorization is astonishing.
I would certainly think it is contestable and open to litigation.
I'm not interested in lies about Planned Parenthood. Keep it up and maybe I'll make a donation to them in your name.
Curious George
Veteran Member
From your source: "Voidable means that the person who lacked capacity to enter the contact can either end the contract or permit it to go ahead as agreed on."
This doesn't mean that a child cannot contract or that the guardian must contract for them. Also, not all contracts are voidable by minors. What I posted was accurate. What you are saying is not.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's just saying that contracts with children are legally worthless without an adult.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Tell that to the icecream man.
Just because a contract is voidable does not mean it is worthless. Moreover, not all contracts children enter are voidable.