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Is sexuality a choice?

Dan Mellis

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Earthtank said:
Ok all jokes aside from my previous posts and let me get serious.

We know that gay sex has a much higher rate of STDS and that gay sex also increase the chances of STDS. So based off those 2 simple facts i say its wrong. Now, what you are saying or trying to argue is a solution 2 those facts and why i personally thinks its wrong. The solution is irrelevant to this conversation as part of your OP was "what world can anyone be justified in sending gay people to hell?" my answer is because its wrong. I do not bevel in hell but, if i did i would say because its wrong. Now, if you want to argue other causes of STDs and how education can help and whatnot, that's a whole different conversation.
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You say it's wrong based on an entirely fallacious argument. Correlation is not the same as causation.

The cause of STDs is unprotected sex with someone who has STDs. Whether STD rates are higher in one community is entirely irrelevant. Based on this logic, its also wrong to have sex with anyone from Africa. It would also be wrong for any European to dare touch an American, because they'd be more likely to spread disease.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Dan Mellis said:
No it wouldn't because rape is the act. Gay is not an act. It is an orientation.

Seriously, why is this so hard? Let's try putting it this way.

A man is attracted to other men, but chooses to be with his wife who he is not attracted to but he believes in monogamy, so doesn't go having sex with other men.

A different man is in dire straits, completely broke and is facing starvation unless he sells himself to a dude. He is in no way attracted to men whatsoever.

A third guy forces himself on someone.

Guy 1 is gay, because he is only attracted to other men. This is true even if he never acts on it and has sex with his wife every night.

Guy 2 had gay sex, but isn't gay himself, because he is not attracted to men (and, again, the definition of gay isn't 'someone who has gay sex' but is 'someone who is attracted to the same gender')

Guy 3 is a rapist, because he raped someone and that's what the word rapist means.

Really dude, this isn't hard. Use a dictionary.
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I would never let an other man put his thing in my as for any amount of money, then it would be two wrong doings in same act.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Earthtank said:
Ok all jokes aside from my previous posts and let me get serious.

We know that gay sex has a much higher rate of STDS and that gay sex also increase the chances of STDS. So based off those 2 simple facts i say its wrong. Now, what you are saying or trying to argue is a solution to those facts and why i personally thinks its wrong. The solution is irrelevant to this conversation as part of your OP was "what world can anyone be justified in sending gay people to hell?" my answer is because its wrong. I do not bevel in hell but, if i did i would say because its wrong. Now, if you want to argue other causes of STDs and how education can help and whatnot, that's a whole different conversation.
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Gay sex doesn't cause STDs. Having an STDs and not using protection during sex is what causes STD infections. Gay sex isn't all about anal, either. I've had sex with men but never had anal.
 
Dan Mellis

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Samana Johann said:
Oh you poor sex-slaves... forced by desire, who's?
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Are you going to add to the discussion or just get offensive? Nobody is forced to have sex but they can't choose who they're attracted to and shouldn't be judged for consensual sex regardless of the person. they're doing it with.
 
Dan Mellis

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Earthtank said:
"I'd do it for free" becuase you are gay. You are finally beginning to see and understand the difference.
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I'm bi, actually. And of course I see the difference. I'm not saying there are endless straight buys choosing gay sex. I'm just saying that having gay sex isn't what makes me bi - I was bi long before that.

Because, and I really hope this sinks in this sinks in this time, its attraction that counts.

Please just answer this question. If a man who is attracted to other men decides to take some viagra to have sex with his wife, is he straight or gay?
 
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Earthtank

Active Member
Dan Mellis said:
Are you going to add to the discussion or just get offensive? Nobody is forced to have sex but they can't choose who they're attracted to and shouldn't be judged for consensual sex regardless of the person. they're doing it with.
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"A different man is in dire straits, completely broke and is facing starvation unless he sells himself to a dude."

you seem to be contradicting yourself way too much while doing some "critical thinking". Your example is of how a man is being forced in to sex due to his situation yet, he's still straight. Anyway, you can keep thinking critically on your own lol as i am done with this illogical and irrational thread.
 
Dan Mellis

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Earthtank said:
"A different man is in dire straits, completely broke and is facing starvation unless he sells himself to a dude."

you seem to be contradicting yourself way too much while doing some "critical thinking". Your example is of how a man is being forced in to sex due to his situation yet, he's still straight. Anyway, you can keep thinking critically on your own lol as i am done with this illogical and irrational thread.
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Good, it seems you're too dim to understand the difference between attraction and action, so yeah I think we're done.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
I believe I chose to be male and the normal sexuality that goes with it.

I could chose to be gay but I would not break God's law so I wouldn't do that anymore than I would have sex with my daughter.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Dan Mellis said:
What?

Are you forced to be a human? Yet you don't have a choice, do you?

You've smuggled in the word 'evil' there. Homosexuality isn't evil. If you wanted to claim that position, you'd have to prove it I'm afraid.
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I believe homosexuality is a sin but that isn't necessarily the same thing as evil. Evil is when you know something if wrong and do it maliciously.
 
Dan Mellis

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Muffled said:
I believe I chose to be male and the normal sexuality that goes with it.

I could chose to be gay but I would not break God's law so I wouldn't do that anymore than I would have sex with my daughter.
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Wait, you could choose to be attracted to mean, or you could choose to have sex with men? That's two different things. I really hope I'm not going to have to discuss this again.

In fact, I'm not going to. Please read above if you believe simply having sex with a man makes you gay.

Yknow, it's funny but most atheists manage to avoid sex with their family even without God's law. Is that the only thing that's stopping you?
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Muffled said:
I believe I chose to be male and the normal sexuality that goes with it.

I could chose to be gay but I would not break God's law so I wouldn't do that anymore than I would have sex with my daughter.
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So you're gender fluid and bisexual? What? Because if you can "choose" to be straight, that means the possibility of being attracted to men is there for you but you don't act on it.
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Jainarayan said:
I did that once, it was really steamy. I had to keep taking a break, if you get my drift. :D
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Been my thing for over ten years now, so I have to take long breaks for it to start actually having any effect now :emojconfused:
 
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