Nine Pieces Of Evidence That Confirm The Historical Accuracy Of The Bible

[Dan Mellis]

False reply seeing the actual word of God was given to man via the Holy Spirit and God himself with Moses.
The bible contains truth and it is clear that only those who are wise unto God and his ways actually understand the truth.

Example: Acts 8 You see how someone reading did not understand and how Philip told him about Christ. You have not read the bible and you make claims for others and it shows false by reading.
You see apostasy is not found in the bible it is a state of mind you choose. For instance... No one studies the bible to compare to present day reality.
What is clear is that the highest rates of apostasy has nothing to do with the truth about God or whether they read the bible or to what they compared it.
It isn't about comparison the bible has to be read in the knowledge and truth of whom God is. Only a believer can receive what God gives his children.

It is personal and how your mind is set is what you will acknowledge.

...so you can only believe in god if you believe in god? Why would god create certain people who cant believe and so presumably go to hell? This is patent nonsense

 

[Dan Mellis]

Dan, even I don't have to explain how Christianity became known abroad and believers are all over the world.
It isn't about being able to substantiate what is written in the bible. It is the fact that believers have a living relationship with God and you have to obey to understand.
Something which you are unable and unwilling to do.

So again, it boils down to faith. Reject all evidence to the contrary, and you'll believe. Even worse, do as you're told by the bible without questioning it, and you'll believe in god.

You're damn right I'm unwillig to accept that. I have at least an understanding of critical thinking.

 

[sooda]

Are all the contradictions the truth?

Show us the contradictions from NT using the OT and let us see what you really have.[/QUOTE]

Your quote function is all screwed up. Check yourself.

 

[sooda]

Is there any rationality in your reply? What 2 million people? Do you not see how your deliberate attempt to mock has shown you willing to mislead?

600,000 able bodied men with their wives, parents, siblings and children.. and two midwives according to scripture. Why don't you READ it?

 

[sooda]

The city was destroyed ~2000 years before Joesphus time so saying that he "confirms" the story is another example of drawing faulty conclusions.

 

[Spartan]

you think that's proof?

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• Thallus (unknown lifespan, claimed to be active in 2nd century CE): Thallus supposedly references (date unknown) a solar eclipse at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. This reference is, at best, third-hand quotation of a summary, and is not recorded in other historic records.

Is that the best you have? Where's your evidence it's false? Now you want confirmations of the confirmation? ROTFLOL!

• Phlegon (unknown lifespan, 2nd century CE; no works survive): Phlegon was a writer who recorded (date unknown) an earthquake, which apologists interpreted as referring to the horrors on the day of the crucifixion. Other apologists rightly trashed this interpretation.

More absurdity. He wrote what he wrote. And that last denial (underlined) is a feeble attempt to represent (anonymous) support for your lackluster denial.

The following is a list of common evidence provided by apologists[71] in an attempt to provide historical evidence for Jesus. It is generally evidence for the existence of early Christianity, and none is evidence for Jesus per se. All of the writers were born after the Crucifixion and could not have been eyewitnesses to Jesus. Moreover in many cases our oldest copies of their works are centuries after they were supposedly written, allowing ample time for copyists to "improve" them. It should be noted that Pliny the Younger was good friends and regularly corresponded with Tacitus and Suetonius so any thing one reports that the other two don't know about is suspect. Evidence for the historical existence of Jesus Christ - RationalWiki

You know, the long, long list of disciples, Gospel authors, early writers, and other people who have to be lying, mistaken, or charlatans in order for people like you to be credible is too voluminous to be believable.

 

[sooda]

Is that the best you have? Where's your evidence it's false? Now you want confirmations of the confirmation? ROTFLOL!


More absurdity. He wrote what he wrote. And that last denial (underlined) is a feeble attempt to represent (anonymous) support for your lackluster denial.



You know, the long, long list of disciples, Gospel authors, early writers, and other people who have to be lying, mistaken, or charlatans in order for people like you to be credible is too voluminous to be believable.

The Brothers Grimm collected ancient fairy tales that had been told many different ways over hundreds of years.

Everyone was writing about Jesus... bringing ancient stories from Babylon, Egypt, Syria and the Ugarit into the narrative.

Look at Danel of the Syrian poetry .. a popular hero in the mythos of Ras Shamra and the north coast Canaanites.

 

[Spartan]

Using a myth (NT) to prove an older myth (OT) is a fail on the highest possible level.

I've already shown what scholarship is saying, the archeologists are in disagreement.

Of course it's a myth? It's written as mythology using mythic structure, it's written in a similar style to other pagan myths of the time and the material directly borrows from other myths pre-dating Jesus?
All outside mentions just mention people who follow the gospels and worship their demi-god and that's it?
The events described were not recorded in histories, no zombies roaming around (which would be a big deal?), no sun going out, nothing.

The entire historicity field considers the supernatural stories to be myth, while many believe Jesus was an actual man the god-version is considered to be mythicized.
All of the published biblical historians Carrier, Price, Pagels, Brodie, Thompson, Ehrman, Dohrety, Pervo..etc.. believe this so saying the idea is "weird" is odd. Clearly someone doesn't steer far from apologetics and stays clear of actual scholarship.

The myth is yours. The historical evidences for Jesus are many and varied. There's over forty writers who wrote about Jesus within 150 years of his life. And I doubt there were any, and certainly not more than a handful, who consider him a myth.

So your mythology claim is nonsense.

The rest of your post was just one self-serving denial after another.

 

[Spartan]

All biblical scholars understand the gospels are anonymous.

That's a load of horse manure. Do some reading other than left wing idiots.

 

[sooda]

The myth is yours. The historical evidences for Jesus are many and varied. There's over forty writers who wrote about Jesus within 150 years of his life. And I doubt there were any, and certainly not more than a handful, who consider him a myth.

So your mythology claim is nonsense.

The rest of your post was just one self-serving denial after another.

Surely there were more than 40 authors. Even Daniel and Isaiah had multiple authors over hundreds of years.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well I saw 12 in a half hour. The odds that all those were all psychosomatic are nil.

How did you calculate those odds? Where is this documented so that others may check your work?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Show it to me. Otherwise give it up.

Nah, I'm not gonna waste my time doing that. I've been around this block before, where posters continually post the same thing over and over as though nobody has ever addressed it before.
I'm done with that business. You know the truth about whether you've posted that before or not.

 

[Spartan]

Did you personally know anyone who was healed and did you follow up on their cases?

Yeah, I've known several. And they were healed.

You know, there is no evidence skeptics like you would ever accept, so continuing to ask for what you're in denial of is a waste of time for both of us.

 

[Spartan]

How did you calculate those odds? Where is this documented so that others may check your work?

So other Christ-denying, anti-supernaturalist "deny everything presented to them" skeptics like you are going to check my work?

LOL. Whistle for it.

 

[Spartan]

The Brothers Grimm collected ancient fairy tales that had been told many different ways over hundreds of years.

Everyone was writing about Jesus... bringing ancient stories from Babylon, Egypt, Syria and the Ugarit into the narrative.

Look at Danel of the Syrian poetry .. a popular hero in the mythos of Ras Shamra and the north coast Canaanites.

You might as well add Bugs Bunny also to make your fairy tale list complete.

 

[Dan Mellis]

Is that the best you have? Where's your evidence it's false? Now you want confirmations of the confirmation? ROTFLOL!


More absurdity. He wrote what he wrote. And that last denial (underlined) is a feeble attempt to represent (anonymous) support for your lackluster denial.



You know, the long, long list of disciples, Gospel authors, early writers, and other people who have to be lying, mistaken, or charlatans in order for people like you to be credible is too voluminous to be believable.

What about muslim writers? Sikh ones? Buddhist? You're discounting almost as many by subscribing to christianity. The thing is, the reasons you have for accepting jesus as the messiah are identical to muslims accepting Muhammad as the prophet. Mainly, its upbringing and geographical/temporal location. If you were brought up in Norway 500ad, you'd probably believe in Thor, Odin, Tyr with exactly the same conviction of faith as you have for yahweh.

It's consistently astounding to me that people can't (or won't) accept this simple fact.

 

[Dan Mellis]

You might as well add Bugs Bunny also to make your fairy tale list complete.

And jesus.

 

[Spartan]

Josephus mentioned the city was near the Dead Sea. The city was destroyed ~2000 years before Joesphus time so saying that he "confirms" the story is another example of drawing faulty conclusions.

Where's your proof Josephus had drawn a faulty conclusion? Pie-in-the-sky claims like that one you made is typical of your lack of scholarship.

 

[Spartan]

And jesus.

No, more like your pathetic claims.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yeah, I've known several. And they were healed.
You know, there is no evidence skeptics like you would ever accept, so continuing to ask for what you're in denial of is a waste of time for both of us.

How do you know they were healed? How were they healed? How do you know they were healed by supernatural entities? Where did you document this?

Skeptics will accept good evidence. People who care about discerning between fact and fiction will accept good evidence. People who want to believe as many true things as possible and not believe false things, will accept good evidence.

Just stating "you won't accept any evidence" isn't an argument. It certainly isn't convincing.