Love your neighborhood Jew as yourself

[oldbadger]

Also extensive photograph evidence including mass executions by firing squad. How does one explain the thousands of empty Jewish villages, many leveled to the ground.

Absolutely!
Women who were forced to work in the field brothels, if they received any 3 bad reports from soldiers, were clubbed to death in front of the whole camp.
Starvation deaths, pistol deaths, firing squad deaths, hypothermia deaths, med research deaths, the causes were legion, the victims in millions.

And the figure was over 11 million, not just the 6 million Jewish victims.

I don't mind people in new generations asking 'Just how do we know all this?' and then getting off their bottoms to investigate for themselves, but the extreme denialists leave me in a position of acute suspicion.

 

[oldbadger]

Let's see, it is written in the book of Revelation ( The Revelation of Jesus Christ Which God gave unto him)

Therefore the book of Revelation is the book of Jesus Christ.

Well seeing the church didn't know exactly what to do about the book of Revelation, Christ Jesus intervene thru his Spirit,
had the church to leave his book of Revelation added to the bible.

Faithofchristian, if you believe that then 'fair enough', but exactly how does that fit in with the thread title, living in harmony with Jews?

I believe that Jews suffered bigotry for millennia because of the absolute drivvle written by John in his gospel and Revs, and the nonsenses of Paul, a man who knew nothing about the life of Jesus.

 

[oldbadger]

The Synagogue of Stan, as John mentions at Revelation 2:9 / Revelation 3:9 are the Jews of Smyrna who persecuted the Christians much the same as the Jews had done earlier in Paul's day. (Acts 13:44, 45; 14:19)

Huh? What?
You actually think that Revelations was written by John in full mental health?
And even if you believe that stuff, that a synagogue's followers were nasty to some Christians, that it has been just to commit atrocities upon Jews for two thousand years?

How do you feel about Italians these days, mate?

I didn't say anything about the number of people in the concentration camps, only the number 6 million which allegedly died. There's no way 6 million Jews died in those camps.

And now I know for sure that you have never got off your chair to investigate these horrors. You can't have lifted a finger to research all this.
The victims numbered over 11 millions.
That's 11,000,000 victims.

You must be a rubbish researcher.

 

[Mr Faux]

If I may ask when Jesus said in Matt 5:44,

"But I (Jesus) say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you"

How does a person love their enemies?​

I love my enemies

Ok, like you recognize that whatever source
it was that provided the misinformation
is unreliable, dinosaurs and people never
coexisted?

or,

Ok, what?

Ok. How do you know? .................... Ive thought alot about this. Point one.......the possibility of evolution. Out of this comes a fact. Fact is, us humans have not changed. Best point of reference ancient egypt because of the art they left behind. So with that, from today back to the oldest art found depicting human. So from here to then, was not enough time. Being opened minded here. If we doubled that time. We are getting closer to humans coexisting with Dinosaurs. ..........part two the religion side. Adam and Eve the first not to mention. In 7 days. So what you think? Possible?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Faithofchristian, if you believe that then 'fair enough', but exactly how does that fit in with the thread title, living in harmony with Jews?

I believe that Jews suffered bigotry for millennia because of the absolute drivvle written by John in his gospel and Revs, and the nonsenses of Paul, a man who knew nothing about the life of Jesus.

Well first before proceeding any further, you would have to explain which Jews are you in reference to?
That would be a big help, so that we know which Jews we're talking about.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I love my enemies

Ok. How do you know? .................... Ive thought alot about this. Point one.......the possibility of evolution. Out of this comes a fact. Fact is, us humans have not changed. Best point of reference ancient egypt because of the art they left behind. So with that, from today back to the oldest art found depicting human. So from here to then, was not enough time. Being opened minded here. If we doubled that time. We are getting closer to humans coexisting with Dinosaurs. ..........part two the religion side. Adam and Eve the first not to mention. In 7 days. So what you think? Possible?

Well first the earth is not 6000 yrs old, as some people are being taught to believe.
But Millions, to Billions of yrs old.

As for Adam and Eve, they were not the first humans to be on Earth.
There's the 6 day creation of humans, that were before Adam and Eve.

As for the dinosaur's, The Dinosaur bones as been proven to show the earth is alot older than 6000 yrs old, As people have been taught to believe.
But yet people still can not accept this fact.

 

[oldbadger]

Well first before proceeding any further, you would have to explain which Jews are you in reference to?
That would be a big help, so that we know which Jews we're talking about.

All and any Jews. Orthodox Jews. Unorthodox Jews...... Living in harmony with Jews.
That's what I'm talking about.

Jesus supported the Baptist's mission to short-circuit excessive all costs and charges to impoverished families so that they could obtain cleansing or hearts and souls through confession and immersion in the Jordan, thereby being able to take their hard earned money home rather than lose it all to the greed of the Jerusalem and provincial households, unfair Temple charges, gross insults in having to handle dirty blasphemous temple coins etc etc.

You should read what the Baptist said about the priesthood in general, the greedy, fat, quisling, corrupt hypocrites that were the priesthood. When he was taken in arrest Jesus picked up the mission, calling for 'mercy, not sacrifice'. So the priesthood were the Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.

Nothing could be more clear, and this can be shown historically. You won't be able to show clarity like that, but I will acknowledge your faith of course.

 

[oldbadger]

I love my enemies

Really?
I usually find such claims to be false. Please excuse the pun, Mr Faux.

........................ Being opened minded here. If we doubled that time. We are getting closer to humans coexisting with Dinosaurs. .........

Wow! Do you think that we did?
Archaeological discoveries are really accelerating these days, what with modern technology, and you never know, a cave painting of hunters riding dinos could be discovered at any time, and then 'Bingo!' the creation breakthrough!

Wonderful......

 

[Faithofchristian]

All and any Jews. Orthodox Jews. Unorthodox Jews...... Living in harmony with Jews.
That's what I'm talking about.

Jesus supported the Baptist's mission to short-circuit excessive all costs and charges to impoverished families so that they could obtain cleansing or hearts and souls through confession and immersion in the Jordan, thereby being able to take their hard earned money home rather than lose it all to the greed of the Jerusalem and provincial households, unfair Temple charges, gross insults in having to handle dirty blasphemous temple coins etc etc.

You should read what the Baptist said about the priesthood in general, the greedy, fat, quisling, corrupt hypocrites that were the priesthood. When he was taken in arrest Jesus picked up the mission, calling for 'mercy, not sacrifice'. So the priesthood were the Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.

Nothing could be more clear, and this can be shown historically. You won't be able to show clarity like that, but I will acknowledge your faith of course.

Those Jews were not real Jews. They were fake Jews, trying to steal the birth right of the true Jews of Israel.

So the priesthood ( Pharisees) were the fake Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.

 

[Flankerl]

I love how extreme Holocaust denial is completely OK but heaven forbid someone used a swearword.

On one hand you say that not all Jews should be blamed for the actions of a few (true) but then you also say that to Jews; Christians are nothing but pogroms, persecutions etc.

What about Jews insulting Christians their "best ally"?

Oh no over a millennia of Christian persecution of Jews.
And your counter? Jews insulting Christians?

That is totally the same. You probably feel really persecuted right now.

Look who rescued the Jews from the holocaust?

The red army.

 

[74x12]

I love how extreme Holocaust denial is completely OK but heaven forbid someone used a swearword.






Oh no over a millennia of Christian persecution of Jews.
And your counter? Jews insulting Christians?

That is totally the same. You probably feel really persecuted right now.




The red army.

Alright nice virtue signaling . I'll say what I want. Lol. And I maintain no responsibility or guilt for persecution of Jews.

The red army! You're so cute. You know both Americans/British and Russians did it.

 

[shunyadragon]

Alright nice virtue signaling . I'll say what I want. Lol. And I maintain no responsibility or guilt for persecution of Jews.

Of course, you personally maintain no responsibility or guilt, but that is not the issue.

The red army! You're so cute. You know both Americans/British and Russians did it.

Labeling the Red Army as saviors of the Jews is indeed a problematic stretch, because they did both save and persecute the Jews and others..

 

[shunyadragon]

Those Jews were not real Jews. They were fake Jews, trying to steal the birth right of the true Jews of Israel.

So the priesthood ( Pharisees) were the fake Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.

Fake Jews?!?!?! That is a new one for me. Unbelievable distinction to justify a very biased religious agenda.

 

[Flankerl]

Alright nice virtue signaling . I'll say what I want. Lol. And I maintain no responsibility or guilt for persecution of Jews.

Go take a hike if you think that insulting someone is like persecuting a group of people for over a millennia.

The red army! You're so cute. You know both Americans/British and Russians did it.

All extermination camps or the remnants of them were liberated by the USSR.

My grandparents were liberated by soldiers of the red army, not American or British soldiers.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Fake Jews?!?!?! That is a new one for me. Unbelievable distinction to justify a very biased religious agenda.

That's all because you have no clue or idea which Jew is which.

Even Jesus pointed the fake Jews out in John 8:39-44 ---"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it"

Even in the book of Revelation 2:9, Jesus pointed the false Jew's out---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

As did Paul in the book of Romans 9:6--
--" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"

Therefore those fake Jews are trying to steal the birthright of the true Israel.

 

[Paula Eilene]

They were written by Jews....I guess that solves the problem.



It is interesting what Jesus said of the religious leaders of his day....

" Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! 39 For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’” (Matthew 23:37-39)

Jesus was highlighting the fact that Israel's history concerning the prophets that God had sent to them in the past were ignored and silenced. He came to heal the Jewish people, but the Jews who adhered to the teachings of the Pharisees did not want to be healed. They had acted just as their forefathers had done and we believe that they killed the last prophet that God sent to them. There would be no more.

Jesus took the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" and separated them from a corrupted religious system that was based on the traditions of men and the unlawful twisting of scripture.



Actually Christendom is a mirror image of Judaism. Just as the Jews persecuted the Christians in the beginning, the Christians ended up persecuting the Jews....and each other....but not by following the teachings of Jesus Christ. His teaching was to "love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself". Jesus was of course quoting the Hebrew scriptures.....these were the only scriptures he had.
Jesus was never sent to the Gentiles...he was sent exclusively to his fellow Jews. The gathering of the Gentiles came after his death and resurrection. This was in fulfillment of God's covenant with Abraham for the blessing of all nations through the coming seed. (Genesis 22:18)

Politically, there seems to be nations who support Israel because they seem to think that hanging onto Israel's coattails, they will get a blessing for their efforts. (Zechariah 8:23) I personally don't believe that applies in the political sense. I believe it applies spiritually.



What brighter future do Jewish people look forward to today? Israel is hardly enjoying peace is it? What do you expect the future to hold for you all?

It's bizarre how Christians always get blamed.

On one hand you say that not all Jews should be blamed for the actions of a few (true) but then you also say that to Jews; Christians are nothing but pogroms, persecutions etc.

What about Jews insulting Christians their "best ally"?

And then you blame Christians for the holocaust! Look who rescued the Jews from the holocaust? American, British and Russians. America largely a Christian nation and so is Britain. So much for Christians causing the holocaust.

And one of Hitler's main excuses for the holocaust was obviously Darwinian evolution. A distinctly un-Christian idea. He did play on "Christianity" as an added excuse to persecute Jews but then that's what sociopaths do. They use any advantage.

Hitler used the New Testament and writings of the Protestant Reformer Martin Luther to change ordinary Germans into murderous Nazis. History shows that it is Christianity who became Israel/the Jews longest enduring and most deadliest of all their oppressors. Gd is allowing the Christians to repent.

 

[Paula Eilene]

That's all because you have no clue or idea which Jew is which.

Even Jesus pointed the fake Jews out in John 8:39-44 ---"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it"

Even in the book of Revelation 2:9, Jesus pointed the false Jew's out---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

As did Paul in the book of Romans 9:6--
--" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"

Therefore those fake Jews are trying to steal the birthright of the true Israel.

The New Testament is not only heretical it is blatantly Antisemitic, there is no devil in the Bible/Judaism and it is Israel/the Jews who Gd declared to be His Son.

 

[Paula Eilene]

I don't know the history that shows that. In my own experience there have been Jewish friends, and those who I wish would go away.

I did run into a Hasidic (?) couple, wearing all the um stuff, and they were sweet and kind. They even invited me to their home. On the other hand, a Jewish woman once berated me for turning a light switch off. (I was trying to be helpful). She followed me, *****ing at me, clear back to my bed. Doubling my fist, I warned her not to pursue me further.

Personally, if I am aware of their needs, I will try to meet them, but never treat me like a "less than" infidel, Gentile Dog!

The only Jew I know who calls Gentile dogs was Jesus, and it is recorded History that I speak of.

 

[oldbadger]

The question, how do you justify that, with the statement, of all jews, or the concept of all jews. You just described what are in your religion, 'different jews'. So Jesus was only going to the jews, and these, bad jews, opposed him... great, but those aren't the jews that you are saying are fake jews. So, you present a contradiction. What manner do you justify this contradiction, not necessarily whether your story, is correct.

1. I don't belong to a religion.
2. The priesthood was the highest section in the Levite clan. I never mentioned fake Jews.
3. Turn on the comprehension switch, and look again.

Clearly, or, hopefully, rather, you are not saying that description of the priesthood, is 'real jews'. Or are you. Or what. Without religious belief, you have no and delineation, its sort of interesting.

With no idea of historical content, maybe you have no delineation, methinks.
Just try telling me who you are and what you believe and whether you can now live harmoniously amongst any and all Jews, and everybody else for that matter.

 

[oldbadger]

So, non christians, dont have to repent, or arent bad?

Non Christians can ditch the self righteous attitudes more easily, maybe?



Now, how do you feel about living amongst any and all Jews in harmony? Can we have an answer to that please?