The Bible and Bad Science

[Subduction Zone]

I was hoping that at least some literalists would have taken the bait. All we have seen are some weak and incomplete apologetics from one member.

 

[Skwim]

This is because Authors of the Bible and or the Clergy have not been able to convey the exact words of G-d down to the generations. Please
Regards

And you know this inability to be a fact because________________________________________________________________________ .


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OP. These so called 'errors' have been debunked over and over. A quick search can bring them up.

Before posting I looked up all of them to see what the apologists had to say, and those I found to have reasonable explanations I eliminated from the list. Recall I said, "I'm presenting only those I feel have reasonable merit." In effect, those I presented had not been debunked.

I also said "If you feel any of them are truly not mistakes or can be readily explained away, I'm all ears." And considering the lack of debunking here it's apparent these errors are just that. Conclusion: In these cases the Bible is wrong in what it says.

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[ecco]

1) The bat is a bird (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18);
Lev. 11: 13 &19
13 “And these you shall detest among the birds; they shall not be eaten; they are detestable: the eagle, the bearded vulture, the black vulture, . . .
19 the stork, the heron of any kind, the hoopoe, and the bat.
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The Stork. The bible was 100% correct in forbidding man to eat Storks. If people ate all the Storks, there would not have been any more babies delivered and man could not have multiplied.

 

[gnostic]

#1: "Bird" is a modern word. Could this be a translation issue? Perhaps the word used to include both bats & birds wasn't about some clade, but rather just "things which fly".
#13: Flying squirrels fly (after a fashion).

Squirrels don’t fly. They fall with style.

“That wasn’t flying. That was falling with style.”

 

[paarsurrey]

Squirrels don’t fly. They fall with style.

Sorry for the interruption.
I have seen squirrels who can glide in the air with much ease and for quite sometimes.
Flying squirrels glide with ease between trees – Naturally North Idaho
Regards

 

[gnostic]

Sorry for the interruption.
I have seen squirrels who can glide in the air with much ease and for quite sometimes.
Flying squirrels glide with ease between trees – Naturally North Idaho
Regards

Interrupt away.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Sorry for the interruption.
I have seen squirrels who can glide in the air with much ease and for quite sometimes.
Flying squirrels glide with ease between trees – Naturally North Idaho
Regards

Some of them even befriend the local moose.

 

[Audie]

Notably more. For instance, while you can use a star to help determine direction, it's impossible for a star to pinpoint a specific geographical location.

I remember as a kid hearing a song about how the
wise men mounted their camels and followed a star.

And thought, who in his right mind would try to do that?

 

[Audie]

Is a contradiction in terms. The Bibles is a statement of faith, that all that exists is created by God, since it cannot surpass the human knowledge/experience that produced it, the 'how' is presented in myth.

So many opinions about what the bible is

 

[Subduction Zone]

I remember as a kid hearing a song about how the
wise men mounted their camels and followed a star.

And thought, who in his right mind would try to do that?

Oh my! I must have rather dirty mind to read this post in the manner that I did.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I remember as a kid hearing a song about how the
wise men mounted their camels and followed a star.

And thought, who in his right mind would try to do that?

I can imagine the conversation. "Look! Let's follow that bright star just for the hellivait"!

Givin the fact that it's completely impossible for a star to pinpoint any specific location on the earth geographically, I would think the task would be rather daunting to say the least.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I can imagine the conversation. "Look! Let's follow that bright star just for the hellivait"!

Givin the fact that it's completely impossible for a star to pinpoint any specific location on the earth geographically, I would think the task would be rather daunting to say the least.

Worse yet, just as the Sun changes position during the day, a star changes position during the night, rising in the east and setting in the west. The wise men would be traveling in circles if they followed the star.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Worse yet, just as the Sun changes position during the day, a star changes position during the night, rising in the east and setting in the west. The wise men would be traveling in circles if they followed the star.

Lol ..... .. ROTFLMAO!!!!

I hadn't thought of that part. *Grin*

 

[nPeace]

These are usually my favorite topics - the ones that point out all the mistakes in the Bible.
I like them because they usually show where the mistakes lie.
I saw one in the very first in the list.

1. Reading one phrase or two, and not considering the surrounding phrases and context.
This is a common mistake made in, not just the Bible, but all literature.
Five Errors in Reading Comprehension Strategy

Another mistake some make is to accept any translation of the Hebrew text without checking other references, to find what the Hebrew word means - since the word used by the translators may not be chosen carefully, so as not to mislead, not confuse, but give accurate meaning and thus clear understanding.
It's understandable then why some might fall into making these mistakes.

Avoiding these mistakes though, we see that the writer did not even hint that a bat is a bird. The writer did not even refer to the bat as a bird.

 

[nPeace]

There seems to be mistakes throughout this entire list, but I don't want to spend time going through all them.
Since the almighty creator is the Alpha and Omega, and the mistakes in the first are seen, I would like to address the last... But I would like to do so with a question. When and how did language originate?
If those who say the Bibles history is incorrect, can provide a factual answer, it would be good to hear it.
Certainly it would be a big mistake to conclude that a historical record is untrue, with no facts to deny it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There seems to be mistakes throughout this entire list, but I don't want to spend time going through all them.
Since the almighty creator is the Alpha and Omega, and the mistakes in the first are seen, I would like to address the last... But I would like to do so with a question. When and how did language originate?
If those who say the Bibles history is incorrect, can provide a factual answer, it would be good to hear it.
Certainly it would be a big mistake to conclude that a historical record is untrue, with no facts to deny it.

Do you believe the Bible to be accurate in regards to the myth of Noah's Flood?

 

[nPeace]

Do you believe the Bible to be accurate in regards to the myth of Noah's Flood?

I don't think of the flood as a myth. Why do you? But I don't want to go off topic. Perhaps another thread would discuss that.
So do you deny the mistakes I pointed out, and do you want to support the mistakes in the list, by addressing the last question I asked?
Or do you agree that that's a big mistake... along with the others?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think of the flood as a myth. Why do you? But I don't want to go off topic. Perhaps another thread would discuss that.
So do you deny the mistakes I pointed out, and do you want to support the mistakes in the list, by addressing the last question I asked?
Or do you agree that that's a big mistake... along with the others?

Because it can be shown that it did not happen.

You appear to be very confused. I have not made any mistakes.

Making excuses for the errors in the Bible does not make them go away. I have not seen you find any real "mistakes" yet either.

 

[nPeace]

Because it can be shown that it did not happen.

You appear to be very confused. I have not made any mistakes.

Making excuses for the errors in the Bible does not make them go away. I have not seen you find any real "mistakes" yet either.

Could you please point out the areas which suggest that I am confused, or making excuses, thank you. While you do so please include these which sums up the mistakes between 1 and 14.

So, I want so badly to be critical of someone or something, that I ignore the obvious. For example, King Solomon wrote,
(Proverbs 5:18, 19)
May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. A loving doe, a graceful deer - may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

So I say, "Here this man does not know the difference between a female human and a female deer, and he thinks that one can get drunk with a woman's love. The man must clearly be out of his mind!"

Wouldn't you consider it a shame that I, in my quest to be critical, ignored good poetry?

Again, with regard to the difference between ancient writings and modern (Hebrew and English), and the fact that translation of ancient language is not for the frivolous.
4-legged insects? - Evidence for God's Unchanging Word

 

[Skipper]

The Bible was never meant to be a book of science.