A rare occurence from God

[savagewind]

Good point @Muffled It is written that a disciple of Jesus should eat HIS flesh and blood. The JWs are not allowed to do that. They believe that God has given everyone a faithful slave and we are to eat what they have for us to eat.

 

[Muffled]

To get eternal life one must know-The Father-YHWH(Jehovah) and Jesus( John 17:3) most are taught to stop at Jesus--they cant win then.

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

 

[Muffled]

Good point @Muffled It is written that a disciple of Jesus should eat HIS flesh and blood. The JWs are not allowed to do that. They believe that God has given everyone a faithful slave and we are to eat what they have for us to eat.

I believe the Church of Christ Scientist and The society of Friends (Quakers) don't do that either.

 

[savagewind]

I believe the Church of Christ Scientist and The society of Friends (Quakers) don't do that either.

I don't know. I understand that it is symbolic. To eat his flesh and to drink his blood means to become more and more like him. I don't believe the Quakers don't do that. I don't know about the others.

 

[savagewind]

The Jehovah's Witnesses are all about becoming like the governing body members. They interpret what people believe God is saying and to be a JW you have to believe them.

 

[kjw47]

Think! How do they know they are not wrong again?

No one knows they are in error until truth is found.

 

[kjw47]

@kjw47 Do you want to talk about Psalms 146:3, Romans 3:4, and Matthew 7:15?

Do you remember that I was JW?

I left because the elder said to me, "we must trust the governing body".

But! That is teaching against Psalms 146:3 and many other scriptures.

Only against scriptures using false reasonings--This is proof of that--Luke 10:16--- That teaches one must listen and obviously trust those teachers. If they do not--they are rejecting Jesus and God as well.

 

[kjw47]

Thats a bold claim to be part of that one percent based of faith out of 99%? Faith doesnt equal to knowledge.

Matthew 24:45-- Luke 10:16)

 

[kjw47]

The real Jesus is the Father.

Then you do not know Jesus who clearly stated while on earth---Our Father, who art in heaven.

 

[kjw47]

what Jesus taught....He taught in parables

and it is noted.....no teaching....without parables

so.....if you know the parables....you know Him

Jesus taught some parables. He as well taught some truth straight up. Like this--Matt 7:21-23

 

[kjw47]

I certainly do but have found that Jw's don't believe everything He says and misinterpret what they do believe He says.

Then you live in error. They are Jesus' anointed teachers-Matt 24:45

 

[savagewind]

Only against scriptures using false reasonings--This is proof of that--Luke 10:16--- That teaches one must listen and obviously trust those teachers. If they do not--they are rejecting Jesus and God as well.

Do you really not see that you equate them to God? Even Jesus did not equate himself to God!

He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2:4

 

[kjw47]

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

The chosen scholars of the day couldn't see the Father in Jesus--Why? As well Jesus warned all that on account of his name( standing up for it) they would do things against the true followers-Why?? Because they do not know the one who sent him---
So no not all see the Father in Jesus--The image( Coll 1:15)--an image is NEVER the real thing.

 

[savagewind]

@kjw47 nobody else is calling themselves equal to God. I understand that they do not say that sentence. But they say these:

Listening to us is as listening to Jehovah.
If a person leaves us they are leaving Jehovah.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Matthew 24:45-- Luke 10:16)

Pleaaaseeee add commentary. What you interpret from scripture can be completely different. It does Not speak for itself.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

One becomes a true follower by being taught by the teachers Jesus appointed here on earth in these last days--The faithful and discreet slave who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Taught and applied.

Thats a bold claim to be part of that one percent based of faith out of 99%? Faith doesnt equal to knowledge.

What is a bold claim regardless if you disagree with me.

15And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No, you will go down to Hades! 16Whoever listens to you listens to Me; whoeverrejects you rejects Me; andwhoever rejects Me rejectsthe One who sent Me.” 17The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in Your name.”…

eadiness at Any Hour
…44For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him. 45Who then is thefaithful and wise servant,whom the master has put in charge of his household, to give the others their food atthe proper time? 46Blessed is that servant whose master returns and finds him doing his job.…

How does these contextual verses relate to what I said?

Please add your point. The scripture does Not speak for itself.

 

[savagewind]

@kjw47 Another thing that is being taught by the governing body which is the same as saying, we are God, is that they alone can keep you safe from Satan. Do they not teach that to be safe a person must join them?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I add this because I dont know your point:

Think about it this way: 1% people (moses, christ, abraham, etc) know god; the father. 99% you, me, and this present humanity only 2500 years later, it seems, all of the sudden does not.

How can you, as a full body of christ not you as an individual, can become part of that few?

One becomes a true follower by being taught by the teachers Jesus appointed here on earth in these last days--The faithful and discreet slave who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Taught and applied.

I think you mentioned 99% of people arent real christians so they are not following god. 1% follows god.

Between ALL christians (real ones. God knows who no one else), why 1%?

Many many christians make the exact same claim (and some same wording) but you guys exclude yourselves from the bigger number of people who arent "real" christians. You all quote scripture as if it talks for itself. It does not.

That is a bold claim. Why do you feel you are part of that 1%?

Are you the only one that knows the real christ?

That is a bold claim as if you speak for god.

 

[savagewind]

Are you the only one that knows the real christ?

I don't think the Jehovah's Witnesses ever claim that they know Christ. They put their trust in the men who say Christ knows them.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

No one knows they are in error until truth is found.

Then you live in error.

Knowing your religion, your so called anointed 'slave', that "new light" can come at any moment, how do you be certain you're not living in error today?