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A rare occurence from God

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Depending on your view, some Christians feel that when Jesus returns, everyone will have a chance to accept him at that time.


Actually at Rev 16--it teaches--Every kingdom( govt, armies,supporters) on earth will be mislead with 3 inspired expressions, those expressions will hit them in the heart--they will be mislead to worship the image of the beast because it will look good to the mortal heart.( 2Cor 11:12-15)
Mislead to stand in opposition to Jesus--I doubt they will even realize that fact until it is to late.
When Gods kingdom rule takes control of the earth( Daniel 2:44) post Har-mageddon. Many of our loved ones resurrected could be given the chance to learn and apply Gods will in the 1000 year reign of Gods appointed king( Jesus) Earth will be transformed into a Eden(Paradise) = the new earth= Gods kingdom in full control, no satan influences.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
which parable are you referring to?


Its not a parable. It is a fact. Few know what Jesus actually taught. I have shared 6 of his teachings in many sights like this-Every trinity follower outright refuses to believe Jesus over dogmas. Even though all 6 teachings are in every translation of theirs. How can one obey Jesus if they refuse to listen to him?
They went to prison in ww1,ww2 because they applied the love Jesus taught and refused to stand against their own brothers in Christ on both sides killing each other( 1John 3:10-12)--branded as cowards by certain religions claiming to be Christian but partook of slaughtering one another, even for Adolf Hitler--The teachers( clergy) prayed to the same god on both sides.
 
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kjw47

Well-Known Member
This was so to show us Jesus was the one Prophet like Moses whom God promised to send. (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)


But who is the "Arm of the Lord"? The Arm of the Lord is always called salvation and it's Yeshua. (Isaiah 52:10; Isaiah 53:1; John 12:38)


Yes. The Father is the only true God and Jesus is the Father manifest. Because He is in human form so He has a God. When you confess that Jesus is Lord you do so to the glory of the Father. No one has the Father without acknowledging the Son but whoever acknowledges the Son is who has the Father.



He was much more than a prophet. He was the Messiah, Gods appointed king.The King of kings. Yet he was not God-- God did it all through Jesus( Acts 2:22)-- the same as he did the things through Moses.
That is talking about--the real Jesus, there is more than one being taught on earth.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Wolves in sheep's clothing are known by their fruits. Did you know that wisdom is not listed as a fruit of God's spirit?

I understand that Jehovah's Witnesses obey their governing body because they can see that those men are wise. But, are they kind? How do you know? Do they spread joy? Are they peaceable? Are they humble?


The GB are doing exactly as God wills. Yes they make errors, but they as well seek them, find them, and correct them.
Not ALL who say-lord lord didn't we do this and that in your name, will enter Gods kingdom. ( Matt 7:21-23)Not all who stand or try to stand succeed.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That would be very wise-Luke 10:16-- if one accepts and listens to Jesus real teachers they listen to Jesus and God as well--or vica versa.
I have not heard (in over twenty years of the Watchtower) that any governing body member has ever said that he "listens to" Jesus. They do not HEAR anything. And what they obey is what other people have written. Jesus might have said the things that people say he did. He might even approve ao "all scripture" but we just don't know.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The GB are doing exactly as God wills. Yes they make errors, but they as well seek them, find them, and correct them.
Not ALL who say-lord lord didn't we do this and that in your name, will enter Gods kingdom. ( Matt 7:21-23)Not all who stand or try to stand succeed.
What does that mean to you? They do exactly as God wills, but they make mistakes. Do you know what exactly means?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You've been misled to think that says, "keep on seeking", it doesn't! You have to understand that no one was a Christian or saved or whatever you want to call them. For Jesus to tell the crowds to, "keep on seeking" means they were already seeking, which wasn't the case. Jesus said, "seek first"!



It keeps one out of the world if their time is occupied by kingdom interests( Matt 16:24)Matt 6)
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I have not heard (in over twenty years of the Watchtower) that any governing body member has ever said that he "listens to" Jesus. They do not HEAR anything. And what they obey is what other people have written. Jesus might have said the things that people say he did. He might even approve ao "all scripture" but we just don't know.


Actually--new light has come through this GB. And as the day draws near--instruction will be given at the end as well.
Seeing Rev 13 passing before the world eyes proves it is real. That has been occurring for years now and continues. So we are well past that point in Rev.
All can see the world falling apart quickly in more ways than one.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
When the governing body members agreed on the right meaning of something they thought they were right. Right? Then, they all agreed that it meant something else. HOW DO YOU know that they aren't wrong again?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@kjw47 Do you want to talk about Psalms 146:3, Romans 3:4, and Matthew 7:15?

Do you remember that I was JW?

I left because the elder said to me, "we must trust the governing body".

But! That is teaching against Psalms 146:3 and many other scriptures.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
One becomes a true follower by being taught by the teachers Jesus appointed here on earth in these last days--The faithful and discreet slave who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Taught and applied.

Thats a bold claim to be part of that one percent based of faith out of 99%? Faith doesnt equal to knowledge.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Thats a bold claim to be part of that one percent based of faith out of 99%? Faith doesnt equal to knowledge.
Very good! If faith is about knowledge like the Jehovah's Witnesses teach, then pity the young and the lonely.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
He was much more than a prophet. He was the Messiah, Gods appointed king.The King of kings. Yet he was not God-- God did it all through Jesus( Acts 2:22)-- the same as he did the things through Moses.
That is talking about--the real Jesus, there is more than one being taught on earth.
The real Jesus is the Father.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Its not a parable. It is a fact. Few know what Jesus actually taught. I have shared 6 of his teachings in many sights like this-Every trinity follower outright refuses to believe Jesus over dogmas. Even though all 6 teachings are in every translation of theirs. How can one obey Jesus if they refuse to listen to him?
They went to prison in ww1,ww2 because they applied the love Jesus taught and refused to stand against their own brothers in Christ on both sides killing each other( 1John 3:10-12)--branded as cowards by certain religions claiming to be Christian but partook of slaughtering one another, even for Adolf Hitler--The teachers( clergy) prayed to the same god on both sides.
Its not a parable. It is a fact. Few know what Jesus actually taught. I have shared 6 of his teachings in many sights like this-Every trinity follower outright refuses to believe Jesus over dogmas. Even though all 6 teachings are in every translation of theirs. How can one obey Jesus if they refuse to listen to him?
They went to prison in ww1,ww2 because they applied the love Jesus taught and refused to stand against their own brothers in Christ on both sides killing each other( 1John 3:10-12)--branded as cowards by certain religions claiming to be Christian but partook of slaughtering one another, even for Adolf Hitler--The teachers( clergy) prayed to the same god on both sides.
what Jesus taught....He taught in parables

and it is noted.....no teaching....without parables

so.....if you know the parables....you know Him
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The real Jesus is the Father.
confusion in your post



the Carpenter is the Son
and of Himself He did say......brother and fellow servant

and we make declaration in recital......Our Father.....

sons of God are we?
brothers.....are we?

heaven hears the recital
so too.....the devil
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
At Jesus baptism, God spoke from heaven( very rare) and said--This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM.

1)Matt 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added. ( sustenance, covering, spirituality)Matt 6)-- The Father would provide those things.
2)Matt 5:5-- Happy are the meek for they will inherit the EARTH. ( Psalm 37:9-11,29)-- this has to be to the great multitude.
3)The Lords prayer--Hallowed be thy(Father) name ( YHWH(Jehovah)
4) Jesus teaches he has a God-his Father- John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- so does Paul- 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 15:24-28, 1Cor8:6--Peter- 1Peter1:3--John at Rev 1:6--- One of the most taught teachings in the nt--Jesus has a God, his Father.
5) Jesus clearly teaches--at John 17: 1-6,26-- The one who sent him=Father( John 5:30) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--Verse 6= YHWH(Jehovah) 26= YHWH(Jehovah)
6) Making John 4:22-24 an everyday accomplishment in a true followers life.

Do you believe Jesus?

I certainly do but have found that Jw's don't believe everything He says and misinterpret what they do believe He says.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
No, I don't, but I like some of the stuff attributed to him - that he allegedly said.

I believe sometimes Jesus says some things that are tough to take like eating his flesh and drinking his blood which caused many of His followers to leave.
 
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