Sudden switch of topic again... but...
Yes, that one we can agree on, and I'm glad you said 'some people'. Your stand on ahimsa is admirable.
Same topic with a different frame of reference to show its importance.
Regards Tony
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Sudden switch of topic again... but...
Yes, that one we can agree on, and I'm glad you said 'some people'. Your stand on ahimsa is admirable.
What? Passive sarcasm?
Everything you are reading, are written (well, typed) words.
Can you practice your religion without your theology?
Then it is agreed the written word is required to educate Humanity. Be it for Faith or any other pursuit in life, we must learn and learning is recorded for future benefit of others.
Regards Tony
Can you practice your religion without your theology?
Again the Written Word is more than Logical. You talk via the Net because of this. Where did the Surgeon learn of their Trade? How did Medicine get better and better?
I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. It's nonsense to me, all this capitalisation.So is the Lover of a Name greater than the Lover of the Spirit behind the Name?
Regards Tony
Yes and No -
Yes if I was 100% aware of my True Self, as that would encompass all the Theology, and
No as God has Given His Word in written form as He knows we will struggle to acheive that aim.
The more we learn of our selves the more this verse has meaning "The good deeds of the righteous are the sins of the Near Ones. This is established." (‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Some Answered Questions, p. 126)
Regards Tony
Yes as no Baha'i has any knowledge of worth that is from their own selves.
It is the Teachings of Baha'u'llah and that is important to know.
Regards Tony
You don't understand our points. It's that simple really.
So is the Lover of a Name greater than the Lover of the Spirit behind the Name?
Regards Tony
My comment was in regard to the psychological NEED some people have for a holy book, a prophet, etc. You distorted it into something else altogether. But I'm getting use to distortion. It seems to be a theme somehow. I'm with Carlita in wondering whether or not some folks even read what we write, as there always seems to be huge misunderstandings.
Needing a surgeon was just an analogy. So I'll use a different one. Thinking all people NEED a prophet or a book because you personally do, is like thinking all people suddenly NEED to use the washroom because you do.
It's called projection. Just to explain in more simple words, so that 'projection' isn't distorted into something like movies on a screen or something else totally unrelated.
Projection of ideas onto others means that you think other people should thing the same way you do. Do you understand now?
Nearly 7 billion people don't NEED the words of your prophet.
The Spirit behind the name means more than the name itself. Get rid of the name, and focus on the spirit. (keep reading before you agree)
The practice behind the words of the sutta are more important than the written suttas themselves. Get rid of the written suttas, and focus on the practice.
The practice behind jesus words are more important than the actual written hebrew and NT scriptures. Get rid of the bible, and focus on the practice of being christian with other people of like mind-that is the bible. Not written words.
So when those people asked him his age, and he said, 'Discuss it, and decide for yourselves.' that was wisdom? How exactly is that wisdom? A much more intelligent answer would have just been, "I'm 42."
I understand your points fully. I just have a different opinion.
Ha ha this is what we are saying "and focus on the spirit".
We just acknowledge the Dawning Points of that Spirit and that to learn what is needed to practice is recorded in a book.
Regards Tony
saying you understand something and understanding them are often two different things
It's His Wisdom and the wisdom of His Teachings which has made the Baha'i Faith the only religion amongst all of the worlds major religions that has not been involved in any major conflict or wars.
Yes some traditions have been passed down and can be shown from the master tradesmen, but when they are gone the skills are lost.
I understand your points fully. I just have a different opinion.