Genesis 11:9, Babel & the EU

[Aberamentho]

Above should be a painting of the Tower of Babel on an official EU poster saying "Many tongues one voice."

Below it a painting of the Tower next to the EU Parliament building in Strasbourg.

Genesis 11:9

Therefore it was called Babel, because there YHVH confused the language of all the earth;

"Many tongues, one voice" on an EU poster with an actual painting of the Tower of Babel and that slogan hinting as if they had reversed the Babel decree in rebellion. The symbolism is just too obvious.

Maybe as obvious as the last sentence

...and from there YHVH scattered them abroad over the face of the earth.

For those with eyes that see

 

[Nietzsche]

You know that painting of the Tower of Babel is from 1563 right? That is thousands of years after it was supposed to have been built. I guarantee you that is not what it looked like.

 

[Aberamentho]

You know that painting of the Tower of Babel is from 1563 right? That is thousands of years after it was supposed to have been built. I guarantee you that is not what it looked like.

It's probably mythical. You can not get to Heaven via tower so God would not be threatened.

It's the fact that they are using it as a symbol and made the Parliament look like the Tower, blatantly.

And Genesis 11:9 , tower, scattered them...

You can do the math.

 

[Aberamentho]

It certainly sends a clear message about what they are doing and intend to do.

 

[Nietzsche]

It's probably mythical. You can not get to Heaven via tower so God would not be threatened.

It's the fact that they are using it as a symbol and made the Parliament look like the Tower, blatantly.

And Genesis 11:9 , tower, scattered them...

You can do the math.

I think you're reading far too much into architectural design.

 

[Aberamentho]

I think you're reading far too much into architectural design.

Here we go with the skeptics.

You are dismissing it for a reason I can't imagine but it's oh so obvious.

If they use a Tower of Babel painting and a slogan related to the verse that mentions it....

I'm not "reading too much" into anything.

I just get the message. Because it is obvious and they aren't trying to hide it whatsoever.

Are you serious?

They didn't accidentally build a Tower of Babel look alike and accidentally use it as a symbol too.

Are you serious?

 

[Aberamentho]

Like I said...

For those with eyes that see

 

[Nietzsche]

Here we go with the skeptics.

You are dismissing it for a reason I can't imagine but it's oh so obvious.

If they use a Tower of Babel painting and a slogan related to the verse that mentions it....

I'm not "reading too much" into anything.

I just get the message. Because it is obvious and they aren't trying to hide it whatsoever.

Are you serious?

Not everyone is a Christian, dear. Or even an Abrahamic monotheist. You sound like a conspiracy theorist, hardly the most stable of the lot, finding connections where they don't exist. We know why the tower is unfinished. It's because the EU's mission-statement hasn't been fulfilled. There are still bits of Europe outside of the Union's umbrella. There is symbolism with the tower, but it has nothing to do with the heat-stroke induced ramblings of desert-dwelling, bronze age goat herders.

Specifically it's missing Belarus, Ukraine, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Moldova, Albania and Turkey. Russia would be nice to have too, but that's clearly never happening. And Switzerland probably won't happen either, but they're in the European Single Market, so that's close enough.

 

[Kemosloby]

It's obviously exactly what it looks like. And no wonder God is going to wipe the Earth clean with fire and destroy them.

 

[danieldemol]

In the story of Babel people are given disunity as a punishment for there pride towards God.
The message is simple, unity is a gift from God whilst disunity is a punishment.

The members of the EU are not known to have built their building for the purpose of reaching heaven though so there are certain parallels between the 2 stories that are missing.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The Tower of Babel is the bait, not the real aim of the topic, and then they are going to push a particular view of John's Apocalypse in order to then support a particular format of Christianity. We're just waiting around for the OP to actually state their point of view instead of these smug suggestions that nobody has any brains but them.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I can't find any official source for that poster. Can anyone please clarify exactly what the source is on it?

 

[Aberamentho]

Not everyone is a Christian, dear. Or even an Abrahamic monotheist.

That doesn't matter at all. It involves the whole world.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist, hardly the most stable of the lot,

You are very naive. Be assured I am not concerned about people who insult others ideas because they happen to require a long explanation to understand the simplest of subjects.

This isn't theoretical. The proof is in front of your eyes literally.

Apparently you are not so enlightened. Sorry to hear it.

finding connections where they don't exist. We know why the tower is unfinished. It's because the EU's mission-statement hasn't been fulfilled.

Is that the official explanation or yours?

Have you never heard of deception?

There are still bits of Europe outside of the Union's umbrella. There is symbolism with the tower, but it has nothing to do with the heat-stroke induced ramblings of desert-dwelling, bronze age goat herders.

Specifically it's missing Belarus, Ukraine, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Moldova, Albania and Turkey. Russia would be nice to have too, but that's clearly never happening. And Switzerland probably won't happen either, but they're in the European Single Market, so that's close enough.

Yeah...

The EU adopted the symbol of the Tower of Babel and the slogan related to the verse that mentions it deliberately to send a message.

God scattered the nations and confused the languages (tongues) at Babel because they were rebelling against him.

Adopting this symbolic imagery is not coincidence or meaningless.

It is letting it be known they are "rebuilding" the "One world, one nation" Kingdom of Nimrod that was thwarted at Babel.

The One World government. EU is/was crucial to that long range plan.

Are you a government shill or just that naive?

 

[Aberamentho]

I can't find any official source for that poster. Can anyone please clarify exactly what the source is on it?

The EU is the source. There are a million websites that discuss it.

They made the poster and the EU Parliament building in its image, an unfinished looking tower.

The confirmation is that. What more do you need to see?

 

[Aberamentho]

The Tower of Babel is the bait, not the real aim of the topic, and then they are going to push a particular view of John's Apocalypse in order to then support a particular format of Christianity. We're just waiting around for the OP to actually state their point of view instead of these smug suggestions that nobody has any brains but them.

Happy am I someone gets it. Hardly ever do I recall us agreeing on anything if my memory is correct. I take this statement back after further review of your angry comment. You don't get it, and we don't agree.

Good to know it doesn't effect your ability to acknowledge something as true when you believe it is. I don't even remember what we disagreed with it might not even have been you so forgive me if I am wrong. I also wasn't wrong about this in hindsight. Accept for the part about acknowledgement. It was actually "dismissed" as "bait" but it is not bait, it is blatantly making known your intentions using Biblical images and phrases related to them.

And since you display an ability to interpret symbolism, I will say what I was withholding. Again I take this back as I misunderstood your comment. Regardless:

Genesis 11:9 refers to the destruction of a tower, (9/11) and scattering the people across the face of the earth.

If you consider it has "confused" everyone (9/11) and caused Muslims to be scattered across the earth and G.H.W Bush gave his famous New World Order speech on 9/11, during one year of the 4 he was pres.

It is not a coincidence that on 9/11 2001 this historical account of Genesis, Biblically speaking, not a prophecy, was made one.

@ Genesis 11:9

 

[Aberamentho]

The Tower of Babel is the bait, not the real aim of the topic, and then they are going to push a particular view of John's Apocalypse in order to then support a particular format of Christianity.

It's symbolic of their goals and agenda, Babel. I don't see how it is bait. What's the switch, Apocalypse?

I don't think you do get it actually, not totally. It is not really about Christianity so much as the destruction of religion.

We're just waiting around for the OP to actually state their point of view instead of these smug suggestions that nobody has any brains but them.

Now I see why I don't like you.

You know my damn point. Don't be negative and critical about something you are yourself aware of because I didn't respond when you wanted me to or how.

Although I actually did BEFORE you asked in the OP and my comments afterwards so if you paid attention you would not be waiting. You would know.

My point of view is easy to deduce. I don't appreciate your attitude either so you will remain waiting for me to do your will.

Im a person. Not a "they."

And regret even what I gave you credit for previously because you are just pushing your particular personal interpretation and don't understand, as I now see. I should have paid better attention but I didn't see the negativity in your response at first, your smug sense of self-superiority which you needn't admit or deny is the case because I can see it in your words and attitude. It won't change anything if you try.

Did you make a thread? What have you contributed to this one?

Nothing but your usual negativity.

Dismissed.

 

[Aberamentho]

You know that painting of the Tower of Babel is from 1563 right? That is thousands of years after it was supposed to have been built. I guarantee you that is not what it looked like.

Apparently someone thinks irrelevant information, when the painting was made#1 and the guess that it didn't look like that, #2, whick make no difference in any logical way pertaining to the meaning behind the usage of it, is Winner! worthy.

Neither does when it was painted matter or what it hypothetically may have looked like if it existed at all.

What matters is what it means to use the Tower as a symbol for the EU and its agenda(s) that are the return to one world government like prior to Babel, immediately prior.

So if that makes your comment a winner I wonder what standards this person uses to determine what is an important comment?

It certainly is not accurate or important, the Tower is older than the painting and they didn't have to use that painting, could have made a new one if it mattered. It doesn't matter. It's symbolic, not an attempt to prove what it looked like. So whenever it was painted is irrelevant as is its actual appearance which is unknown.

What is relevant is usage itself, and what it means to those who are not naive and unaware, skeptical as anyone but not dismissive of obvious symbolism, Biblical symbolism used to announce the intentions of the EU its allies, and what they stand for, who they serve.

Naive people who think if they say conspiracy theory they look smart, which could be the case if talking about theories.

Not actual conspiracies which actually exist, I don't think they realize the difference because tptb have been making conspiracy and conspiracy theory, two different things, subliminally one and the same which effectively renders legitimate conspiracies into fodder for nutters.

I mean by definition if two people plan to do something it is conspiring, especially if they tell no one.

But evil conspiring and related shenanigans of the elite are what gets called conspiracy theory, fact or fiction.

And the naive need to know they are naive and stop thinking everything that they don't know is not true because they don't know, because they are not capable of understanding unless they are given hours of explanation of what some see with just their eyes and comprehend immediately because they have spent their time wisely by learning instead of criticizing everyone who just wants to share something fascinating. Because they don't get it, are naive enough to believe the world is run by nice people.

Or maybe they just are insecure about anything that escaped their attention even though it no longer does it is possible that people actually get embarrassed when they learn about something new, possibly and as equally ludacris, just BECAUSE they didn't know it.

They are always silenced in the end, after irrational arguments fail and logic prevails, they never acknowledge (in general) they were mistaken and just didn't understand. Usually they just vanish.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The EU is the source. There are a million websites that discuss it.

I have found a lot of Christian and conspiracy theory sites that mention it, but I can't find any evidence of it actually being an official EU poster. There's no official account of it given anywhere - just a lot of sites parroting each other. The closest I got was a site which said - without reference - that the poster was "withdrawn after Christians protested". (SOURCE: Europe)

They made the poster and the EU Parliament building in its image, an unfinished looking tower.

The confirmation is that. What more do you need to see?

All I have is the word of conspiracy theory sites. It's extremely easy to draw a picture, slap an EU label on it, and then claim it's an official poster used in 1992. I can't find absolutely any evidence of its actual use, and no official reference to it even being made by the European Council. Where is the evidence?

 

[Aberamentho]

Not everyone is a Christian, dear. Or even an Abrahamic monotheist. You sound like a conspiracy theorist, hardly the most stable of the lot, finding connections where they don't exist. We know why the tower is unfinished. It's because the EU's mission-statement hasn't been fulfilled.

I have to say it again, you don't KNOW that at all. Do you know how I can tell?

Because it's not true and you can't literally know something that isn't a fact, you can think it is is all but by the nature of what is true, in this instance the fact that the EU Parliament building looks like the Tower of Babel used in an official EU poster with a slogan hinting at Genesis and the confusion of tongues AT Babel.

Whoever "We" means, knows nothing about this if that is accepted as a valid explanation despite the fact that it's obviously meant to resemble Babel.

Gullibly think is not a synonym for know.

There are still bits of Europe outside of the Union's umbrella. There is symbolism with the tower, but it has nothing to do with the heat-stroke induced ramblings of desert-dwelling, bronze age goat herders.

Specifically it's missing Belarus, Ukraine, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Moldova, Albania and Turkey. Russia would be nice to have too, but that's clearly never happening. And Switzerland probably won't happen either, but they're in the European Single Market, so that's close enough.

How does this relate to the message of the EU that it is rebelling against God as did Nimrod at Babel?

It's not germane to the agenda itself, all your little factoids about the EU.

You are just talking about the EU, not in relation to the topic. Why? I have a clue but I will keep it to myself.

 

[Aberamentho]

I have found a lot of Christian and conspiracy theory sites that mention it, but I can't find any evidence of it actually being an official EU poster.

So it is a hoax? THAT is a conspiracy theory. Prove it is a hoax then. Otherwise maybe they don't want to talk about or acknowledge it for obvious reasons and stopped using it.

I am certain it is official so you can take my word for it or don't. Unless you have proof of a hoax... It's not. And I know it is not.

There's no official account of it given anywhere - just a lot of sites parroting each other. The closest I got was a site which said - without reference - that the poster was "withdrawn after Christians protested". (SOURCE: Europe)

That's suspicious ... because they don't give you a reference? Yet it explains it, your inability to find confirmation, and you have no evidence of a hoax or that it is not the reason, which is most plausible and should not need a reference as that is what Christians do.

All I have is the word of conspiracy theory sites. It's extremely easy to draw a picture, slap an EU label on it, and then claim it's an official poster used in 1992. I can't find absolutely any evidence of its actual use, and no official reference to it even being made by the European Council. Where is the evidence?

In front of you. You call them "theory" sites but do you know for a fact everything on them is theoretical?

You don't. It is not a theory if it is true despite the website, and you are interpreting confirmation as the opposite. Think about it.

Either you have eyes that see or you need other people to determine for you the truth, and I am not doing the latter.

Maybe you need to stop just being dismissive of the obvious. I would say that is the case.

I mean how can you not see it just by looking at the pictures and analyzing their content?

The Tower of Babel??? Do you know what it means?

Can you prove a conspiracy existed to create a poster that uses Babel imagery without EU consent and that complaining Christians didn't protest a legitimate poster they were offended by?

Because your denials are themselves conspiracy theories.

Someone conspired with others to make a fake EU poster and a fake Parliament building that looks like the Tower on the poster?

And then conspired to blame Christians for it's not being in use anymore?

That's a conspiracy theory an insane person would think up.