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Men the slaves of Gods

Tabu

Active Member
@RevealTheAliens
What all you have mentioned above is very much true , and this is what we see happening around us.
Men work like slaves , and the world is being ruled by a selfish few .
Its very sad that wars , homelessness , misery , distrust continues to grow ,average people are being exploited by a selfish few who are cunningly proud of their smartness .
Yet people continue to hope that there would be some kind of magic and everything would be set right ,though they do not see anything concreate happening.
God seems to watch everything and do nothing , which raises a question as to whether Satan has taken over the world and God is unable to protect it.
And how long will Satan's rule continue ,and how long will we be able to take all this?
All these thoughts had made me pessimistic about the world , future , humanity , God etc..

With Brahmakumari beliefs there is optimism , hope and positivity.
The belief is that everything is cyclic , as a day is after a night. Each has a fixed time for which it would last.
And what is the proof ?
1.The theory of Karma , the cause and effect relation , people won't be able to take evil for long , seeing the devastating consequences of evil they will change and try to bring in good.

2.Everything which was new gets old , and old things become problematic and when they cannot function any longer they are to be scrapped and a new thing would replace the old , so would be with this world , when nature and morals get totally polluted they have to be either cleaned or disposed , and at BrahmaKumaris we believe that this is the main job of God in the entire cycle.

Few beautiful names of God come to function at this juncture one is "The Purifier " or the one who turns the dirty to the pure , this would operate on our morals , and restore them to their original purity.
The other is "The Destroyer of the old and Establisher of the new world"
and most importantly He is also " The remover of sorrow and restorer of happiness" , who will bring in a new clean world of happiness.
At BrahmaKumaris we have already started receiving the first rays of sunlight and we are certain and are delightfully waiting for the arrival of a bright new day.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Not the idea but the info. I got the information from the religious texts. For example see Leviticus in the Bible. Archaeology and history confirm the trillions of animal and human sacrifices.
Ok, but I see that as a much earlier stage in human history. Not many people in the modern world really believe gods want animal or human blood sacrifices. I think the idea came not from the gods in the first place, but from primitive thinking.
 

wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
I think we have become domesticated slaves who truly desire freedom and this is one reason why many people choose religion because it gives them hope. Also its a way of meeting people and making friends, so for the lonely people it is a perfect way of feeling wanted and maybe important. I also agree with the OP that the majority of us are indeed slaves(to the System), but how many people realise that we are slaves ? I think our slavery begins when we send our children to infants/junior school, then off to secondary school to complete our indoctrination. We continue to be slaves to the System either by entering employment or further education. We have addictions to try and bury the feeling that we are trapped/slaves(to the System). These are just my opinions/theories and I hope no one is offended
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
No matter if it has changed or not, the code is code and behind it theres a coder. It doesnt matter if we're talking about the first or last edition of a program. So you have nothing to discuss and provide info, goodbye
The code is also part of evolution, the code was made by evolution, there is no one making the code, that to me is just silly.
 
Ok, but I see that as a much earlier stage in human history. Not many people in the modern world really believe gods want animal or human blood sacrifices. I think the idea came not from the gods in the first place, but from primitive thinking.


If sacrifices were made to the deceased ancestors, its simply the belief in the afterlife. People bring food etc to deceased.
Not primitive thinking, it exists today also.
 
A girl said something about egotism. Not at all! If I was caring for my personal happiness, I would also make a deal with the Devil if he would give me riches. Im talking about GENERAL justice and happiness of all the good people.

Currently the bad live a healthy happy life full of riches and the good live a hellish life.

Is God happy with this?! How many more centuries have to pass, since God judges its time to intervene? (of course if he's capable to intervene and banish evil)
 
The great problem is the deliberate hide of truth from old and new religious and scientific clergies. I dont believe in what <<science>> says about space etc. We think that because we can communicate via screen and sound with someone who is far away, we hold the knowledge. Others think that they can explore heaven and space through a site with their pc!

Lies! Its all lies folks! Science tries to promotes the idea that is an enemy of dark ancient religion and knowledge is now open to the public! <<Science>> is a bunch of religious mediators as the old religious clergies who hold secrets.

All these masonic members either they are politicians, business men, high officials or scientists, they are the elect of higher dark forces deciding the fate of thee world.

Its time someone exposes the million years tyranny and its too sad that their power consists of fools coming from the lower strata of society. Police men and army consist of people like you and me, who decide to be pigs of the system against the poor. Sincere people should fight to take hold the gun equipment of the Earth. This is the power of tyranny.
 
Believe what you want, as long as your happy.

You.

Im not happy with what I believe. Atheism and new age esoteric religions are a tool of the system, so that no high authorities will be blamed for misery.

Atheistic philosophy supports the rulership of the rich tyrants, teaching no god and savior of mankind exists. They also teach that poor should blame themselves for misery and should live happy with few things away from the riches of this world.
 

NoGuru

Don't be serious. Seriously
The world itself is the only "riches" you need.

"There are two ways to be wealthy; earn more or desire less"

I recommend you watch a documentary called "10 Questions for the Dalai Lama". Not for his responses, but the journey the film maker went through to meet him opened his eyes to much of life. One thing was the extreme poverty in India. The other thing he noticed was that it was the poor who smiled more and seemed to be happier. The elite never seemed to smile.

Things don't make people happy. People make people happy.

You seem to be a on path of learning. The first step of man is believing the illusion. The second step is seeing all the negative. The third step is realizing the necessity and beauty behind it all.

Through suffering, a man grows. "No rain, no rainbows"
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
You.

Im not happy with what I believe. Atheism and new age esoteric religions are a tool of the system, so that no high authorities will be blamed for misery.

Atheistic philosophy supports the rulership of the rich tyrants, teaching no god and savior of mankind exists. They also teach that poor should blame themselves for misery and should live happy with few things away from the riches of this world.
Everything is what it is, there is no god in the sky controlling anything, we all need to take responsibility for our own actions, not blaming anything except ourselves, there is no reason to have a god, it only gets in the way of reality, yes grow up, and don't blame everything on am imaginary devil or whatever.
 
Everything is what it is, there is no god in the sky controlling anything, we all need to take responsibility for our own actions, not blaming anything except ourselves, there is no reason to have a god, it only gets in the way of reality, yes grow up, and don't blame everything on am imaginary devil or whatever.

Blame yourself
 
The world itself is the only "riches" you need.

"There are two ways to be wealthy; earn more or desire less"

I recommend you watch a documentary called "10 Questions for the Dalai Lama". Not for his responses, but the journey the film maker went through to meet him opened his eyes to much of life. One thing was the extreme poverty in India. The other thing he noticed was that it was the poor who smiled more and seemed to be happier. The elite never seemed to smile.

Things don't make people happy. People make people happy.

You seem to be a on path of learning. The first step of man is believing the illusion. The second step is seeing all the negative. The third step is realizing the necessity and beauty behind it all.

Through suffering, a man grows. "No rain, no rainbows"

Your opinions are welcome.

The problem with eastern religions which are now revived, merged with <<science>>, in the western world is

1)they teach inactivity. People should not fight against tyrants and tyrants will continue to rule while poor will be happy with the state of nothing, which is the goal of meditation.

2)they teach good and bad can not exist separate. So there wont be any justice and judgement against the evil.
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
~;> if this thread is about scripturally written facts then we could certainly prove that being a slave of god of truth and love is always a good news unto all
and
if this thread is about scientifically written facts then we could certainly prove that being a slave of god of truth and love is always a good news unto all also


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godbless
unto all always
 
For the knowledge of the people.

The rise of atheism in the West was a programmed pre-state before the rise of the new age religions which were based in ancient philosophies of India.

First men were teached that there was no God who created and rules the world (big lie), so that the hope for a strong one who will bring justice would be thrown into the trash. Also this way no high god can be blamed for misery.

Then, they were teached that world can not exist without evil and men are responsible for their actions and their misery, so that they should look inside (esoterism) rather than blame someone outside. They say dont try to physically change the world, the world was same from the beginning with all the good and bad. This way the rulers can continue to oppress humanity without having the fear there will be a revolt.

The truth is that there is really Creator/Creators who rule humanity, but we live in darkness about their true motives. What's sure is that the ones who currently rule the Earth are VERY EVIL and we dont know if it's the Creator/Creators of mankind or someone who has ousted him/them.
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
~;> perhaps someone could research about THE EVIL ONE
so that none may blame for everything evil that is happening in this plane of existence


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godbless
unto all always
 

NoGuru

Don't be serious. Seriously
1)they teach inactivity. People should not fight against tyrants and tyrants will continue to rule while poor will be happy with the state of nothing, which is the goal of meditation.

You have fear that the dark will overcome the light. Let's go with the Christian doctrine since Eastern doesn't tickle your fancy. Is God not directing their minds like channels of water? Is it not the meek that will inherit the Earth? I can't imagine any God advocating violence in the face of adversity, this is weakness.

2)they teach good and bad can not exist separate. So there wont be any justice and judgement against the evil.

That's not entirely true, although all the universe is this way. Cut the southern pole off a magnet and what happens? It just starts right where you made the cut. You cannot remove it. Just as the Earth goes through seasons, so does the demeanor of man. You look around and you see evil, but others just see the build up to the climax in a play. What do you intend to do? Are you marching the streets? Are you taking up arms?

Many a men has recognized the "evil" that exists, and many a men have taken to preaching instead of doing. Do you fear the evil? If these powers are so powerful I imagine then that you know your protest is not going unnoticed. Nor would an outright rebellion be allowed.

What can one do then? Perhaps it best to exercise patience and recognize that all life is cyclical. The dark cannot overcome the light, unless the light puts itself out by becoming dark in a false hope of fighting fire with fire.
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
~;> just imagine how big the universe is in this reality and how many stars there is within its space but still those stars cant match up the darkness that surrounds everythings even how many stars where capable of bringing light unto this plane of existence literally

so the answer is not in the physically temporal materialistic way in order to find the very reason about this so called
THE EVIL ONE

by the way
good never came from evil
and
evil never came from good
as in
light never came from darkness
but their is always who brings light when darkness approaches
. ... if we may say so

just for a thought ... .


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godbless
unto all always
 

NoGuru

Don't be serious. Seriously
good never came from evil

Like economic prosperity from war? The abundance of life following a forest fire? Galaxies being formed from a feeding black hole?

evil never came from good

Hitler brought his nation out of economic depression, then he wanted to remove a threat to his nation. He arguably had good intentions, which led to very bad actions. Crimes of passion when a man cannot stand to lose a woman and kills her? A young boy playing too rough injures another..

Both scenarios can, and do, happen.
 
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