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Should Women be Held Accountable for Men's Sexual Feelings?

Should women be held accountable for men's sexual feelings towards them?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • No

    Votes: 22 71.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • Total voters
    31
Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
NulliuSINverba said:
As a public service, you ought to explain your version reality to the Pope. Apparently, he's also "not really in tune" with it. Observe:

"I have been deeply disturbed by the information which has come to light regarding the abuse of children and vulnerable young people by members of the Church in Ireland, particularly by priests and religious. I can only share in the dismay and the sense of betrayal that so many of you have experienced on learning of these sinful and criminal acts and the way Church authorities in Ireland dealt with them." ~ PASTORAL LETTER OF THE HOLY FATHER POPE BENEDICT XVI TO THE CATHOLICS OF IRELAND

"[The Holy Father] assures all concerned that the Church will continue to follow this grave matter with the closest attention in order to understand better how these shameful events came to pass and how best to develop effective and secure strategies to prevent any recurrence." ~ PRESS RELEASE OF THE HOLY SEE PRESS OFFICE ON THE MEETING OF THE HOLY FATHER, BENEDICT XVI, WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE IRISH EPISCOPAL CONFERENCE AND SENIOR OFFICIALS OF THE ROMAN CURIA, 11 DECEMBER 2009

"Another matter which has received much attention in recent months, and which seriously undermines the moral credibility of Church leaders, is the shameful abuse of children and young people by priests and religious." ~ MEETING WITH THE BISHOPS OF ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND WALES, ADDRESS OF HIS HOLINESS BENEDICT XVI

"It is in the context of this hope born of God’s love and fidelity that I acknowledge the pain which the Church in America has experienced as a result of the sexual abuse of minors. No words of mine could describe the pain and harm inflicted by such abuse. It is important that those who have suffered be given loving pastoral attention." ~ HOLY MASS (Extract from the HOMILY OF HIS HOLINESS BENEDICT XVI, Washington Nationals Stadium, Thursday, 17 April 2008)

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Do us all here a favor and let us know how he takes it, OK?
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I haven't got a lot to do with the Pope, as it happens. But your comment aligned adults with children, who not responsible for their actions, whereas adults are. You seemed to be advocating a 'do what you want policy' in one sense, which makes no sense. I say that because you don't appear to care how adults dress.

And as for the Pope's comments (if they are indeed his) I skimmed them; they seem to be just as disgusted as the rest of us.
 
Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Deidre said:
Yet, we don't read much in any religion, how men cause women to stumble. It's always women causing men to stumble. Hmmm....

I agree with you, otherwise.
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Iguess, staying in the real world, that is because women tend to be the shop window, and men tend to be the customer. Now, can you take that in the spirit it was given?
Men usually are the instigators even though it might actually come from the woman and her dress and how she acts etc. So it is at least, thoughtful, for the woman (and man) to consider how they act, and that would include dress.
 
Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
SomeRandom said:
Whoa whoa, mate. Let's not go nuts here. Okay? I'm sorry but as an Australian the very concept of not going to the beach is almost akin to hating Australia. It's like NOT having a BBQ during summer or something crazy like that. Excuse me a moment while I go out and get in touch with my patriotic side by finding a dangerous snake to run like hell from. :p
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haha, okay, your choice. But I'm just saying, that is a choice. And, if we believe in God, we have to ask which is most important, doing what we think is right or being on the beach. It depends on your own beliefs or lack of them I guess. ;)
 
savagewind

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Robert.Evans said:
haha, okay, your choice. But I'm just saying, that is a choice. And, if we believe in God, we have to ask which is most important, doing what we think is right or being on the beach. It depends on your own beliefs or lack of them I guess. ;)
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New God's law. No beach. Oh brother!
 
savagewind

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Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
savagewind said:
And Robert has come to save us! A bathing suit you say is not modest. Do I hear you?
Don't you think it is weak men who shouldn't go to the beach for a swim? OK?
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It is up to you, as you know. I just gave the scripture, which is God's Word, if you are willing to accept it that is.
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Robert.Evans said:
It is up to you, as you know. I just gave the scripture, which is God's Word, if you are willing to accept it that is.
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God's word does not have a list of modest and a list of immodest. YOU have started a list. That is going beyond what it is written which is a much more serious crime than a bathing suit I think.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

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Robert.Evans said:
haha, okay, your choice. But I'm just saying, that is a choice. And, if we believe in God, we have to ask which is most important, doing what we think is right or being on the beach. It depends on your own beliefs or lack of them I guess. ;)
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Not if you're in Aus mate! It's practically the law to go to the beach as often as possible here! :p

Maybe they could just go to the nude beaches? I sincerely doubt anyone is a stumbler at one of those! And if they are, well, they're ****ed either way, aren't they?:D.
 
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Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
savagewind said:
God's word does not have a list of modest and a list of immodest. YOU have started a list. That is going beyond what it is written which is a much more serious crime than a bathing suit I think.
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Scripture is pretty clear. I quoted it. So how an I be going beyond what is written. ?
 
Robert.Evans

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
SomeRandom said:
Not if you're in Aus mate! It's practically the law to go to the beach as often as possible here! :p

Maybe they could just go to the nude beaches? I sincerely doubt anyone is a stumbler at one of those! And if they are, well, they're fuucked either way, aren't they?:D.
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You have such a cute way with words don't ya ;)
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

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Robert.Evans said:
So are you Christian then? You don't have to answer that.
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Well, I was raised Hindu without any real Religious barriers. I'm sort of in between religions at the moment. I don't even know if I will ever be religious, but I believe in God and have no real issue with any interpretation of God. Guess I'm still finding my own way.
 
savagewind

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It is very hard for me to trust a person who says "God's word says modest clothing is the rule. The rule is so weak men's consciences are not defiled. A bathing suit is not modest clothing so God's rule then becomes beaches are off limits for swimming."

Someone must sacrifice a pleasant day on the beach for the weak consciences of men who might possibly be on the beach that day. So men, it is OK to swim at the beach wearing a T shirt, I guess. But women should not wear bathing suits so beaches are off limits for them according to the one who made swimming pleasurable. It appears swimming is only for men according to some people raising The Bible to be believed.
 
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