Societal Taboos vs Religious Taboos

[The Sum of Awe]

Why does it seem like LHPers tend to interpret being Taboo to being Taboo towards a certain religion? Why not go against mainstream ethics in society, instead of a religious ethics?

 

[Iti oj]

Like what?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Like... I love supporting violence to a group of peace-lovers even if I don't really care about violence.

I love talking about eating puppy corpses around vegans.

I love watching horror movies around kids.

I love making offensive jokes around people who get so easily offended.


THAT is legit taboo, have it you?

The thing is, we should start tolerating intolerance and steal liberal ethics around conservatives, and conservative ethics around the liberals. And I recommend starting at the core of it all, starting at the hardest level first: being taboo towards your own ethics.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I sometimes am in support of socialism, when I'm entirely a capitalist. I'm entirely a capitalist around socialists.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I once debated whether child cannibalism or child rape was worse for the child's parents in a crowded mall surrounded by families with small children. Good day, good day...

Then again, that wasn't about taboo. That was intended to be a legitimate discussion that just happened to be in a taboo location.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I once debated whether child cannibalism or child rape was worse for the child's parents in a crowded mall surrounded by families with small children. Good day, good day...

Then again, that wasn't about taboo. That was intended to be a legitimate discussion that just happened to be in a taboo location.

What do you mean by taboo location?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

No pandas, not bamboo, taboo!

 

[Gjallarhorn]

What do you mean by taboo location?

Taboo as in discussing horrifying topics around children or the victims.

In everyday interaction, isolation is manifested in a general code of mutual silence: primarily toward children, so these are not at once scared senseless by the life they have just begun, but retain their illusions until they can afford to lose them.

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[1137]

Taboos are healthy

 

[Quintessence]

Why does it seem like LHPers tend to interpret being Taboo to being Taboo towards a certain religion? Why not go against mainstream ethics in society, instead of a religious ethics?

I suppose I can understand where you are getting this from, but I don't really see things that way. All taboos are relative to some particular cultural group, and religious groups are one such cultural group. Additionally, I feel like you're suggesting a stronger division between mainstream ethics and religious ethics than is actually there in practice. Christianity is the mainstream religion in America, and therefore Christian ethics are mainstream ethics. It's not all there is to mainstream ethics, but it's a huge component of it. I don't see this as an either-or.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I suppose I can understand where you are getting this from, but I don't really see things that way. All taboos are relative to some particular cultural group, and religious groups are one such cultural group. Additionally, I feel like you're suggesting a stronger division between mainstream ethics and religious ethics than is actually there in practice. Christianity is the mainstream religion in America, and therefore Christian ethics are mainstream ethics. It's not all there is to mainstream ethics, but it's a huge component of it. I don't see this as an either-or.

I'm talking about what is incredibly frowned upon by the vast majority.

 

[Mindmaster]

Taboos are a funny thing really, but have nothing to do specifically with the LHP. I had a thread on this sometime back, but the gist of it was that it wasn't so important that you were rebelling against society but more importantly rebelling toward that which is either challenging or offending you. Mindlessly revolting against the norms isn't particularly LHP as it is just as mindless as attempting to blend in with the crowd. The LHP has always been about forging own destiny not merely acting up like a child. I guess a good question to ask yourself in the process is: If no one was here to watch what I did would I still be doing it? There you go... If you would do it anyway it is just your nature if you are just doing it to offend people or for shock value maybe you should estimate why you care about the pathetic praise of the horde.

 

[Quintessence]

I'm talking about what is incredibly frowned upon by the vast majority.

So... like murder, rape, theft, etc?

There are some taboos that are just self-defeating to violate. Things incredibly frowned upon by the vast majority of society tend to make you a social outcast at best, stuck on death row at worst.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

So... like murder, rape, theft, etc?

There are some taboos that are just self-defeating to violate. Things incredibly frowned upon by the vast majority of society tend to make you a social outcast at best, stuck on death row at worst.

Not all things frowned upon is illegal.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Taboos are a funny thing really, but have nothing to do specifically with the LHP. I had a thread on this sometime back, but the gist of it was that it wasn't so important that you were rebelling against society but more importantly rebelling toward that which is either challenging or offending you. Mindlessly revolting against the norms isn't particularly LHP as it is just as mindless as attempting to blend in with the crowd. The LHP has always been about forging own destiny not merely acting up like a child. I guess a good question to ask yourself in the process is: If no one was here to watch what I did would I still be doing it? There you go... If you would do it anyway it is just your nature if you are just doing it to offend people or for shock value maybe you should estimate why you care about the pathetic praise of the horde.

Because breaking taboos is not only for fun, but they guide you ritually...

 

[Gjallarhorn]

So... like murder, rape, theft, etc?

There is definitely a point to be made here, but not the one you would expect.

Murder is bad! ...except in self-defense, for one's country, in the pursuit of equality, if God wills it...

Rape is bad! ...unless God wills it...

Theft is bad! ...but your starving family comes first, right?

I think the taboo to break here is the respect for arbitrary distinctions people hold about the same task.

 

[Quintessence]

The distinctions don't seem particularly arbitrary to me. Subjective, yes. Arbitrary, no.

 

[Infinitum]

I don't really get this taboo breaking thing. I know it's part of some versions of Black Magic (can't remember the web site anymore) but that's nothing I really have any interest in. I can understand recognizing your own taboos and working with or against them as a way to learn more about your psyche and how to control it. Breaking someone else's just because you can falls (in the vast majority of cases) right under childish.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I don't really get this taboo breaking thing. I know it's part of some versions of Black Magic (can't remember the web site anymore) but that's nothing I really have any interest in. I can understand recognizing your own taboos and working with or against them as a way to learn more about your psyche and how to control it. Breaking someone else's just because you can falls (in the vast majority of cases) right under childish.

What about not just because you can but you find it fun or interesting to see their reactions?

 

[1137]

Taboos are a good thing in my opinion. Not having control of yourself is definitely not mature and evolved in the "spiritual" sense. If you cannot say no even to yourself, you are doing it wrong. For example, I have enough self control to not rape, steal, murder, etc. Might I want to sometimes (the exception being rape), sure, but it is one of my taboos. Another thing to note is the idea of having no taboos is extremely illogical, as having taboos becomes taboo, and therefore you have taboos.