• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

What does Leviathan symbolize to the LHP?

1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Title says it all. I am hoping for a semi-detailed description of what Leviathan represents. Obviously eternal and unstoppable power residing in the choatic waves of subconsiousness. But what in the world does that mean? Is Leviathan the kundalini serpent? Etc etc etc
 
Orias

Orias

Left Hand Path
Well a Leviathan is something very large for its kind or structure.

In terms of the Bible, Leviathan is the Serpant of the Sea and a reminder of the existence of the abyss.

To me Leviathan represents the Deep, or the abyss of the mind and existence. What we lack in awareness we see with intuition and give way to the realm of non-existence.

Leviathan is ageless because it is composite (as the others like Satan, Belial and Lucifer) of the unknown the desire to know.

I always ask myself this question...

"What is worse than not knowing? To live or disappear?"- Dimmu Borgir
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Orias said:
To me Leviathan represents the Deep, or the abyss of the mind and existence. What we lack in awareness we see with intuition and give way to the realm of non-existence.
Click to expand...

But Leviathan dwells within the abyss. So is Leviathan the unstoppable and undying force that lies deep within the mind and can be freed?
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Orias said:
Its kind of along the lines of..."You are what you eat".
Click to expand...

Haha well I'd say Leviathan eats everything. Therefore Leviathan is The All. Therefore The Absolute is in the abyss of mind, and internal searching (The LHP) is the inclusivistic way to spiritual perfection. The thing is, this does not make sense: Leviathan being The All. The abyss would be The All, and I have no idea where Leviathan stands.

Look:
Satan - The Adversarial power. The rebellion.
Set - The power of Being / Xeper. Becoming your true Self.
The Abyss - The infinitely deep, chaotic waves of the mind. Accessed through the above, it leads to:
Baphomet / Lucifer - A perfect being. Perfect balance, mastery of philosophy, mastery of self, etc etc etc.

Leviathan would fit between The Abyss and Baphomet / Enlightenment. I feel it is the Kundalini serpent of Hinduism. An eternal and ancient power that rests inside each spiritual being and, once released, is an unstoppable force of True Will. So pretty much Leviathan is the Kundalini serpent is what I am saying... haha. Sorry, that is kind of obnoxious rambling.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Iti oj

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
idk if im lhp or not but ive been posting in the thread a bunch recently so i figured i would weigh in. to me it represents the uncontroable nature of the mind. how human thought consious or unconsious is out strongest most unstopable force. even chained and enslaved the beast is still strong and wild. you can never fully stop the power of the mind and todo so invites disaster.
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Iti oj said:
idk if im lhp or not but ive been posting in the thread a bunch recently so i figured i would weigh in. to me it represents the uncontroable nature of the mind. how human thought consious or unconsious is out strongest most unstopable force. even chained and enslaved the beast is still strong and wild. you can never fully stop the power of the mind and todo so invites disaster.
Click to expand...

And once one releases the power it is completely unstoppable and cannot be contained again.
 
horizon_mj1

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
Orias said:
Well a Leviathan is something very large for its kind or structure.

In terms of the Bible, Leviathan is the Serpant of the Sea and a reminder of the existence of the abyss.

To me Leviathan represents the Deep, or the abyss of the mind and existence. What we lack in awareness we see with intuition and give way to the realm of non-existence.

Leviathan is ageless because it is composite (as the others like Satan, Belial and Lucifer) of the unknown the desire to know.

I always ask myself this question...

"What is worse than not knowing? To live or disappear?"- Dimmu Borgir
Click to expand...
Excellent explanation;)
 
S

ScottySatan

Well-Known Member
I always thought that the Leviathan of Thomas Hobbes is also relevant. Though his books were about how to "cure" it, he was one of the early people to acknowledge on paper, humanity's innate savagery.

His choice of the name Leviathan was almost certainly inspired by the religious meme.
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Iti oj said:
yes but it can always be directed.
Click to expand...

By the individual who controls it and has released it. Leviathan is a power that rests inside the mind (or something), chained up by culture, authorities, religions, etc etc etc.
 
horizon_mj1

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
The Doors of Perception said:
Haha well I'd say Leviathan eats everything. Therefore Leviathan is The All. Therefore The Absolute is in the abyss of mind, and internal searching (The LHP) is the inclusivistic way to spiritual perfection. The thing is, this does not make sense: Leviathan being The All. The abyss would be The All, and I have no idea where Leviathan stands.

Look:
Satan - The Adversarial power. The rebellion.
Set - The power of Being / Xeper. Becoming your true Self.
The Abyss - The infinitely deep, chaotic waves of the mind. Accessed through the above, it leads to:
Baphomet / Lucifer - A perfect being. Perfect balance, mastery of philosophy, mastery of self, etc etc etc.

Leviathan would fit between The Abyss and Baphomet / Enlightenment. I feel it is the Kundalini serpent of Hinduism. An eternal and ancient power that rests inside each spiritual being and, once released, is an unstoppable force of True Will. So pretty much Leviathan is the Kundalini serpent is what I am saying... haha. Sorry, that is kind of obnoxious rambling.
Click to expand...
Who's the adversary; Satan or Lucifer? Since when are they the same and who told you so:sarcastic Just curious;)
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
horizon_mj1 said:
Who's the adversary; Satan or Lucifer? Since when are they the same and who told you so:sarcastic Just curious;)
Click to expand...

I say Satan is The Adversary and Lucifer is the illuminated being. They are not the same, in my opinion at least.
 
Orias

Orias

Left Hand Path
The Doors of Perception said:
Haha well I'd say Leviathan eats everything. Therefore Leviathan is The All. Therefore The Absolute is in the abyss of mind, and internal searching (The LHP) is the inclusivistic way to spiritual perfection. The thing is, this does not make sense: Leviathan being The All. The abyss would be The All, and I have no idea where Leviathan stands.

Look:
Satan - The Adversarial power. The rebellion.
Set - The power of Being / Xeper. Becoming your true Self.
The Abyss - The infinitely deep, chaotic waves of the mind. Accessed through the above, it leads to:
Baphomet / Lucifer - A perfect being. Perfect balance, mastery of philosophy, mastery of self, etc etc etc.

Leviathan would fit between The Abyss and Baphomet / Enlightenment. I feel it is the Kundalini serpent of Hinduism. An eternal and ancient power that rests inside each spiritual being and, once released, is an unstoppable force of True Will. So pretty much Leviathan is the Kundalini serpent is what I am saying... haha. Sorry, that is kind of obnoxious rambling.
Click to expand...


I think your thinking too much...when you step back and look at the whole picture...

You will realize what you create.

"You are what you eat" and you are what you learn. Leviathan is not all because he is composite, a being that exists because of generations of addition and remanifestation by us, the beings who allow such "spirits" to exist.

Leviathan is the abyss as much as he resembles it, with that being said a dwelling can only be reflected upon lightly (in terms that it is reflected because of light!).
 
Iti oj

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
The Doors of Perception said:
By the individual who controls it and has released it. Leviathan is a power that rests inside the mind (or something), chained up by culture, authorities, religions, etc etc etc.
Click to expand...

Yes yes but those who chained the beast can use tools like media and war(any thing that can cause an us vs them mentality)
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Iti oj said:
Yes yes but those who chained the beast can use tools like media and war(any thing that can cause an us vs them mentality)
Click to expand...

Right. Although this is an extremely deep symbolism (would you expect anything else haha) it still fits. The media, authorities, etc enslave us (or better yet Leviathan, the truest deepest Self). Breaking away from conformity we free Leviathan. This is LHP thought making the Left Hand Path an inclusivist path for the most part.
 
Iti oj

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
The Doors of Perception said:
Right. Although this is an extremely deep symbolism (would you expect anything else haha) it still fits. The media, authorities, etc enslave us (or better yet Leviathan, the truest deepest Self). Breaking away from conformity we free Leviathan. This is LHP thought making the Left Hand Path an inclusivist path for the most part.
Click to expand...
as deep as the depths the leviathan resides in =D
 
1137

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Here's my line of though:

The Absolute <= Leviathan <= Enlightenment <= Baphomet / Lucifer <= The Abyss / Awakening Leviathan <= Set <= Satan <= Temporal, unspiritual existence.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top