Why does GOD want us to Observe the Sabbath?

[Lucius7]

Kemet existed before any of the organized Dynasty's. Whereas, there is controversy over the cradle of civilization being Egypt, the Indus Valley or Mesopotamia, I am certain that the Kemetic religion is the origin of all religious thought.

*Note that I added more to my previous post that you might find of interest

I can only suceed to you that Egypt was the original religious and cultural center of Africa, not of the world as historical evidence proves. I have to remain in my original assertion that Babylon preceeded Egypt and is the predecessor of the Egyptian system.

You are well entitled to your opinion and it bears some merit and I will not harass the issue any further if you desire.

 

[Lucius7]

ARE YA’LL READY!!!

Give me a drum roll please…

Before I reveal the true meaning and history of the Sabbath, let me first thank and congratulate everyone who posted on this thread and for the variety of thoughts and ideas put forth. I appreciate the good nature and positive interactions and lack of emotional arguments and confrontations (which are ultimately inevitable, but still I appreciate that it did not digress in the short time it was up) For those who just threw up ideas, not knowing the answer, I appreciate your providing us with materials to examine and study according to scripture to help us learn to identify the difference between what GOD says and what man says GOD says.

For those who don’t care about the answer, I still appreciate your cordiality and respect for this post, and for those few who are actually hearing truths that are making sense to them, I wish you only the best and prayerfully hope that you continue to seek GODs will and way through HIS divinely inspired scriputures. If you learn to do that you will have made a bigger advance towards unlocking the mysteries of the Kingdoms than all of the great modern religions combined. Again I thank all of you for your audience and respect for myself and each other. Love you all.

HERE IS THE ANSWER TO THE POST

”WHY DOES GOD WANT US TO OBSERVE THE SABBATH?”

AND THE QUESTIONS “WHAT DOES THE SABBATH MEAN TO AND FOR HUMANITY?” and “WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO GOD?”

(With brief scriptural references rather than comprehensive ones to keep the answer under 30 or 40 pages.)



ANSWER:

At the Command of ‘ELOHIYM (THE FATHER GOD, GOD), Ruwach ‘ELOHIYM (The Spirit GOD, Holy Spirit), and YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM (The LORD GOD, Iesos Christos, Jesus the Christ) renovated the earth and it’s atmosphere, making it habitable for mankind during a 6 day (6,000 year) process that ended with the creation of man (GEN 1:2-31). On the 7th day ‘ELOHIYM (GOD) rested, setting this day apart and designating it as HIS Holy Sabbath Day (sunset day 6 through sunset day 7) (GEN 1:26-2:4).
This is ‘ELOHIYM’s Sabbath which HE created for man (MAR 2:27), commanding HIS Elect to rest from our daily occupations and concerns, and assemble to praise and worship, and learn more of HIM and HIS plan and purpose for us (EXO 20:8-11, 23:12, ISA 66:23). During one period of national stubbornness, ‘ELOHIYM ordered the violators of the Sabbath put to death (EXO 35:2). HE also used manna to force observance of HIS Sabbaths 2,360 times in 40 years (EXO 16:1-35). ‘ELOHIYM (GOD), never authorizing its change, the weekly Sabbath has been binding on humanity since the creation of Adam and Eve (LEV 23:1-3, EXO 31:13). This is the day observed and taught by YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM as Jesus Christ, and His Apostles (MAR 6:2, LUK 4:16, ACS 13, 17:2, 18:4, COL 2:16-17). The order of ‘ELOHIYM’s 7 day week has remained consistent on every calendar, from the original Hebrew calendar, down to the present Roman or Gregorian calendar where it is called Saturday.

FINAL SUMMARY:

This day, ordained by ‘ELOHIYM, looks forward to the time when HE will provide a millennial day (1,000 years) of rest for humanity when the 6 millenial days (6,000 years) of physical work have expired.


I will remain available in the post for the next day or so in the event that there are any further questions regarding the validity or further explaination of this summary answer.

I look forward to future studies of GODs Truths and Principles for those who have enjoyed this process. Remember that the Truths of GOD are the Mysteries of the Kingdom, and despite having been written and recorded for almost 4,000 years, remain hidden from the great religions of the world in fulfillment of prophecy. The formula GOD gives to those who earnestly desire to learn more of HIS Truths is: ASAR
Ask, Seek, Apply and Receive.
Ask GOD to reveal HIS truths, Seek them diligently using the tools HE has provided you with (namely the Scriptures), Apply the principles which HE reveals to you, and Receive the benefits reserved only for those who obey HIM.http://dickinsg.intrasun.tcnj.edu/diaspora/kemet.html

 

[EtuMalku]

ARE YA’LL READY!!!

Give me a drum roll please…

Before I reveal the true meaning and history of the Sabbath, let me first thank and congratulate everyone who posted on this thread and for the variety of thoughts and ideas put forth. I appreciate the good nature and positive interactions and lack of emotional arguments and confrontations (which are ultimately inevitable, but still I appreciate that it did not digress in the short time it was up) For those who just threw up ideas, not knowing the answer, I appreciate your providing us with materials to examine and study according to scripture to help us learn to identify the difference between what GOD says and what man says GOD says.

For those who don’t care about the answer, I still appreciate your cordiality and respect for this post, and for those few who are actually hearing truths that are making sense to them, I wish you only the best and prayerfully hope that you continue to seek GODs will and way through HIS divinely inspired scriputures. If you learn to do that you will have made a bigger advance towards unlocking the mysteries of the Kingdoms than all of the great modern religions combined. Again I thank all of you for your audience and respect for myself and each other. Love you all.

HERE IS THE ANSWER TO THE POST

”WHY DOES GOD WANT US TO OBSERVE THE SABBATH?”

AND THE QUESTIONS “WHAT DOES THE SABBATH MEAN TO AND FOR HUMANITY?” and “WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO GOD?”

(With brief scriptural references rather than comprehensive ones to keep the answer under 30 or 40 pages.)



ANSWER:

At the Command of ‘ELOHIYM (THE FATHER GOD, GOD), Ruwach ‘ELOHIYM (The Spirit GOD, Holy Spirit), and YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM (The LORD GOD, Iesos Christos, Jesus the Christ) renovated the earth and it’s atmosphere, making it habitable for mankind during a 6 day (6,000 year) process that ended with the creation of man (GEN 1:2-31). On the 7th day ‘ELOHIYM (GOD) rested, setting this day apart and designating it as HIS Holy Sabbath Day (sunset day 6 through sunset day 7) (GEN 1:26-2:4).
This is ‘ELOHIYM’s Sabbath which HE created for man (MAR 2:27), commanding HIS Elect to rest from our daily occupations and concerns, and assemble to praise and worship, and learn more of HIM and HIS plan and purpose for us (EXO 20:8-11, 23:12, ISA 66:23). During one period of national stubbornness, ‘ELOHIYM ordered the violators of the Sabbath put to death (EXO 35:2). HE also used manna to force observance of HIS Sabbaths 2,360 times in 40 years (EXO 16:1-35). ‘ELOHIYM (GOD), never authorizing its change, the weekly Sabbath has been binding on humanity since the creation of Adam and Eve (LEV 23:1-3, EXO 31:13). This is the day observed and taught by YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM as Jesus Christ, and His Apostles (MAR 6:2, LUK 4:16, ACS 13, 17:2, 18:4, COL 2:16-17). The order of ‘ELOHIYM’s 7 day week has remained consistent on every calendar, from the original Hebrew calendar, down to the present Roman or Gregorian calendar where it is called Saturday.

FINAL SUMMARY:

This day, ordained by ‘ELOHIYM, looks forward to the time when HE will provide a millennial day (1,000 years) of rest for humanity when the 6 millenial days (6,000 years) of physical work have expired.


I will remain available in the post for the next day or so in the event that there are any further questions regarding the validity or further explaination of this summary answer.

I look forward to future studies of GODs Truths and Principles for those who have enjoyed this process. Remember that the Truths of GOD are the Mysteries of the Kingdom, and despite having been written and recorded for almost 4,000 years, remain hidden from the great religions of the world in fulfillment of prophecy. The formula GOD gives to those who earnestly desire to learn more of HIS Truths is: ASAR
Ask, Seek, Apply and Receive.
Ask GOD to reveal HIS truths, Seek them diligently using the tools HE has provided you with (namely the Scriptures), Apply the principles which HE reveals to you, and Receive the benefits reserved only for those who obey HIM.

Then what's up with that Jesus dude? There are plenty of stories of Him doing all kinds of stuff on Sunday . . . he don't listen do he?

 

[Lucius7]

Then what's up with that Jesus dude? There are plenty of stories of Him doing all kinds of stuff on Sunday . . . he don't listen do he?

I just verified that Saturday is the Sabbath, and yes He did many things on the Sabbath which violated the Jewish laws (not to be mistaken with GODs Law). However, everytime he was confronted by the Pharisees regarding His good works on the Sabbath he validated His actions by quoting GODs Law and the justification of His actions in contrast to the corrupted Judaic system of the time.

 

[Lucius7]

to all who still wish to post,

I will be unavailable to respond untill after sunset today, but will resume discussions at that time. Please continue to post if you like and I will address anything aimed at me when I return in order.

Take care! See ya soon.

Clay

 

[Arlanbb]

First of all I would like to challenge you or anyone else to provide a reference where I stated that GOD started the earth 6,000 years ago. I did not say that, nor is it true. I said that GOD ordaned the Sabbath at the beginning of mankind, not that HE created the world 6,000 years ago. GOD does not give us a method of measuring how long the earth existed during the Luciferian inhabitation, how long it sat void and motionless, and/or how much time lapsed from then until the recreation and the creation of Adam. The earth is at least several hundred million years old using most scientific evidence and perhaps much older than that.

Perhaps you should reference your archeological sources. No post-adamec humans inhabited any cities prior to the creation of man. The two main methods of dating cities and items are both carbon dating and soil measurements. Carbon dating can only reveal the date of elements used and not the date of use or inhabitation, and dating by using the soil and levels of existing structures and foundations only allows you to date in proximity to other cities and surrounding geological earth or artifacts which date to other cultures. The only types of bipedal humans that existed prior to the creation of Adam were species like homo-erectus and such. These life forms existed for millions of years prior to the creation of Adam and include dinosaurs and other early life forms. Lucifer and his angels also inhabited the earth prior to man and archeological evidence could point to that, but not Jericho or Egypt. I would question what kind of "People" inhabited Egypt (human or not) and the method and scientific accuracy of the dating methods used by your source. Science is constantly throwing around numbers and going back and changing them later.

GOD says that HIS Plan of Salvation for humanity covers a span of 6,000 years of human rule under satanic deception followed by 1,000 years of rule under Christ during a time of peace and restoration followed by a short season after which a new heaven and a new earth are provided as the old heaven and earth are destroyed. That is a short scriptural summary of my use of 7,000 years.

CLUE: The 7,000 years relates to the Sabbath.[/quote]

Let me see if I understand you properly. God created the world millions or billions of years ago, I believe that also, then you say God "recreated' humans, Adam was the first 5,985 years ago [855 x 7]. So your story is that Genesis account ch. 1 and 2 has two different creation stories in it - one for earth and a later one for modern humans like us with billions of years in between from day 1 to day 6 of creation. On what day of creation did God made the earliest NON humans: Australopithecines ramidus [they lived a very short time about 4.5 million years ago] then there was A. afarensis [that lived from 3.5 to 2.8 millions years ago] then A. Africanus [lived 3 to 2.2 million years ago] and Paranthropines boisel & robustus [lived 2 to 1.2 million years ago] and next is African H. erectus [lived 1.5 to 800,000 years ago] some later Homo's then the Neanderthals about 120,000 BC, they were the first humans to bury their dead and were present from western Europe to Soviet Central Asia? When did God create all there different humans?
Next you suggest that My archaeological sources might be WRONG. Being involved in archaeology for the last 20 years I do have proper sources, you be the judge: ARCHAEOLOGY, THEORIES, METHODS, AND PRACTICE, 600 pages By Colin Renfrew & Paul Bahn [this is the bible in archaeology] ; PAST WORLDS, ATLAS OF ARCHAEOLOGY By Harper Collins [12" x 18" large format over 300 pages and another bible for archaeologist].
You say "No post - Adamec Humans ever inhabited any cities" before 5985 years ago. [man's creation]. I have another book used in archaeology called: ARCHAEOLOGY OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE - 10,000-586 BCE". This book tells of all the people that had lived and died in Palestine in the last 12,000 years. These are real humans like you and I with the same type of DNA as you have. On page 39 is a map of all the major dig sites in Israel of cities that are up to 10,000 years old. There are 22 cities. One of them is Jericho [oldest] and another is Shaar Hogolan where I spent two summers digging. People live and built houses in Shaar Hogolan from aout 6400 to 5800 BC long before your so called creation of Adam.
I have to go for right now but I will be back to finish correcting your statements on archaeology. Please do not go away.

 

[Arlanbb]

First of all I would like to challenge you or anyone else to provide a reference where I stated that GOD started the earth 6,000 years ago. I did not say that, nor is it true. I said that GOD ordaned the Sabbath at the beginning of mankind, not that HE created the world 6,000 years ago. GOD does not give us a method of measuring how long the earth existed during the Luciferian inhabitation, how long it sat void and motionless, and/or how much time lapsed from then until the recreation and the creation of Adam. The earth is at least several hundred million years old using most scientific evidence and perhaps much older than that.

Perhaps you should reference your archeological sources. No post-adamec humans inhabited any cities prior to the creation of man. The two main methods of dating cities and items are both carbon dating and soil measurements. Carbon dating can only reveal the date of elements used and not the date of use or inhabitation, and dating by using the soil and levels of existing structures and foundations only allows you to date in proximity to other cities and surrounding geological earth or artifacts which date to other cultures. The only types of bipedal humans that existed prior to the creation of Adam were species like homo-erectus and such. These life forms existed for millions of years prior to the creation of Adam and include dinosaurs and other early life forms. Lucifer and his angels also inhabited the earth prior to man and archeological evidence could point to that, but not Jericho or Egypt. I would question what kind of "People" inhabited Egypt (human or not) and the method and scientific accuracy of the dating methods used by your source. Science is constantly throwing around numbers and going back and changing them later.

GOD says that HIS Plan of Salvation for humanity covers a span of 6,000 years of human rule under satanic deception followed by 1,000 years of rule under Christ during a time of peace and restoration followed by a short season after which a new heaven and a new earth are provided as the old heaven and earth are destroyed. That is a short scriptural summary of my use of 7,000 years.

CLUE: The 7,000 years relates to the Sabbath.[/quote]

You talk about C-14 like it is not reliable. Have you ever used it? I don't think so, so if you haven't used it how do you know it is no good? C-14 is used on the following items to tell how old a dig site might be within a 50 to 200 years on: chared seeds, piece of linen, small bones, charcoal and branches of trees. All of these can give a very good age of when people lived there. Did you know that C-14 has been crossed checked with known dates of tree rings dating back to about 9000 years and only off by 10% at the 9000 year date. The archaeologist use more than one dating method when checking items. There is tree-rings, varves, Potassium-argon, Uraniom-series, fission-track,thermoluminescence, Optical, Electron Spin Resonance, Obsidian, Amino-acid Racemization, Cation-Ratios, Paleomagnetic.

What evidence that there has been only 855 jublies sabbaths in this world up to now. If you are using the Hebrew calendar for your figures those people have only been on earth for about the last 3000 years or so and anything they produced before that time is all conjector.

I bet you didn't know that there are cities today that have had people continuslly living in them older than your 6000 years creation: Byblos [Jbeil], Lebanon - 7000 years; Damascus, Syria - 6,300 years; Aleppo, Syria - 6,300 years; Susa, Iran 6,200 years;Sidon, Lebanon -6000 years along with Crocodilopolis in Egypt. Look them up on Google and prove it to yourself. Your 7000 years theory is all shot to hell anyway you look at it.

You asked me for my reference so I'm asking for your references for your statements?

 

[Riverwolf]

ARE YA’LL READY!!!

Give me a drum roll please…

Before I reveal the true meaning and history of the Sabbath, let me first thank and congratulate everyone who posted on this thread and for the variety of thoughts and ideas put forth. I appreciate the good nature and positive interactions and lack of emotional arguments and confrontations (which are ultimately inevitable, but still I appreciate that it did not digress in the short time it was up) For those who just threw up ideas, not knowing the answer, I appreciate your providing us with materials to examine and study according to scripture to help us learn to identify the difference between what GOD says and what man says GOD says.

For those who don’t care about the answer, I still appreciate your cordiality and respect for this post, and for those few who are actually hearing truths that are making sense to them, I wish you only the best and prayerfully hope that you continue to seek GODs will and way through HIS divinely inspired scriputures. If you learn to do that you will have made a bigger advance towards unlocking the mysteries of the Kingdoms than all of the great modern religions combined. Again I thank all of you for your audience and respect for myself and each other. Love you all.

HERE IS THE ANSWER TO THE POST

”WHY DOES GOD WANT US TO OBSERVE THE SABBATH?”

AND THE QUESTIONS “WHAT DOES THE SABBATH MEAN TO AND FOR HUMANITY?” and “WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO GOD?”

(With brief scriptural references rather than comprehensive ones to keep the answer under 30 or 40 pages.)



ANSWER:

At the Command of ‘ELOHIYM (THE FATHER GOD, GOD), Ruwach ‘ELOHIYM (The Spirit GOD, Holy Spirit), and YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM (The LORD GOD, Iesos Christos, Jesus the Christ) renovated the earth and it’s atmosphere, making it habitable for mankind during a 6 day (6,000 year) process that ended with the creation of man (GEN 1:2-31). On the 7th day ‘ELOHIYM (GOD) rested, setting this day apart and designating it as HIS Holy Sabbath Day (sunset day 6 through sunset day 7) (GEN 1:26-2:4).
This is ‘ELOHIYM’s Sabbath which HE created for man (MAR 2:27), commanding HIS Elect to rest from our daily occupations and concerns, and assemble to praise and worship, and learn more of HIM and HIS plan and purpose for us (EXO 20:8-11, 23:12, ISA 66:23). During one period of national stubbornness, ‘ELOHIYM ordered the violators of the Sabbath put to death (EXO 35:2). HE also used manna to force observance of HIS Sabbaths 2,360 times in 40 years (EXO 16:1-35). ‘ELOHIYM (GOD), never authorizing its change, the weekly Sabbath has been binding on humanity since the creation of Adam and Eve (LEV 23:1-3, EXO 31:13). This is the day observed and taught by YeHoWaH ‘ELOHIYM as Jesus Christ, and His Apostles (MAR 6:2, LUK 4:16, ACS 13, 17:2, 18:4, COL 2:16-17). The order of ‘ELOHIYM’s 7 day week has remained consistent on every calendar, from the original Hebrew calendar, down to the present Roman or Gregorian calendar where it is called Saturday.

FINAL SUMMARY:

This day, ordained by ‘ELOHIYM, looks forward to the time when HE will provide a millennial day (1,000 years) of rest for humanity when the 6 millenial days (6,000 years) of physical work have expired.


I will remain available in the post for the next day or so in the event that there are any further questions regarding the validity or further explaination of this summary answer.

I look forward to future studies of GODs Truths and Principles for those who have enjoyed this process. Remember that the Truths of GOD are the Mysteries of the Kingdom, and despite having been written and recorded for almost 4,000 years, remain hidden from the great religions of the world in fulfillment of prophecy. The formula GOD gives to those who earnestly desire to learn more of HIS Truths is: ASAR
Ask, Seek, Apply and Receive.
Ask GOD to reveal HIS truths, Seek them diligently using the tools HE has provided you with (namely the Scriptures), Apply the principles which HE reveals to you, and Receive the benefits reserved only for those who obey HIM.

A thousand years of rest?

BORING!!

Besides, what will happen after that? 6,000 more years of hard work?

 

[Lucius7]

First of all I would like to challenge you or anyone else to provide a reference where I stated that GOD started the earth 6,000 years ago. I did not say that, nor is it true. I said that GOD ordaned the Sabbath at the beginning of mankind, not that HE created the world 6,000 years ago. GOD does not give us a method of measuring how long the earth existed during the Luciferian inhabitation, how long it sat void and motionless, and/or how much time lapsed from then until the recreation and the creation of Adam. The earth is at least several hundred million years old using most scientific evidence and perhaps much older than that.

Perhaps you should reference your archeological sources. No post-adamec humans inhabited any cities prior to the creation of man. The two main methods of dating cities and items are both carbon dating and soil measurements. Carbon dating can only reveal the date of elements used and not the date of use or inhabitation, and dating by using the soil and levels of existing structures and foundations only allows you to date in proximity to other cities and surrounding geological earth or artifacts which date to other cultures. The only types of bipedal humans that existed prior to the creation of Adam were species like homo-erectus and such. These life forms existed for millions of years prior to the creation of Adam and include dinosaurs and other early life forms. Lucifer and his angels also inhabited the earth prior to man and archeological evidence could point to that, but not Jericho or Egypt. I would question what kind of "People" inhabited Egypt (human or not) and the method and scientific accuracy of the dating methods used by your source. Science is constantly throwing around numbers and going back and changing them later.

GOD says that HIS Plan of Salvation for humanity covers a span of 6,000 years of human rule under satanic deception followed by 1,000 years of rule under Christ during a time of peace and restoration followed by a short season after which a new heaven and a new earth are provided as the old heaven and earth are destroyed. That is a short scriptural summary of my use of 7,000 years.

CLUE: The 7,000 years relates to the Sabbath.

Let me see if I understand you properly. God created the world millions or billions of years ago, I believe that also, then you say God "recreated' humans, Adam was the first 5,985 years ago [855 x 7]. So your story is that Genesis account ch. 1 and 2 has two different creation stories in it - one for earth and a later one for modern humans like us with billions of years in between from day 1 to day 6 of creation. On what day of creation did God made the earliest NON humans: Australopithecines ramidus [they lived a very short time about 4.5 million years ago] then there was A. afarensis [that lived from 3.5 to 2.8 millions years ago] then A. Africanus [lived 3 to 2.2 million years ago] and Paranthropines boisel & robustus [lived 2 to 1.2 million years ago] and next is African H. erectus [lived 1.5 to 800,000 years ago] some later Homo's then the Neanderthals about 120,000 BC, they were the first humans to bury their dead and were present from western Europe to Soviet Central Asia? When did God create all there different humans?
Next you suggest that My archaeological sources might be WRONG. Being involved in archaeology for the last 20 years I do have proper sources, you be the judge: ARCHAEOLOGY, THEORIES, METHODS, AND PRACTICE, 600 pages By Colin Renfrew & Paul Bahn [this is the bible in archaeology] ; PAST WORLDS, ATLAS OF ARCHAEOLOGY By Harper Collins [12" x 18" large format over 300 pages and another bible for archaeologist].
You say "No post - Adamec Humans ever inhabited any cities" before 5985 years ago. [man's creation]. I have another book used in archaeology called: ARCHAEOLOGY OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE - 10,000-586 BCE". This book tells of all the people that had lived and died in Palestine in the last 12,000 years. These are real humans like you and I with the same type of DNA as you have. On page 39 is a map of all the major dig sites in Israel of cities that are up to 10,000 years old. There are 22 cities. One of them is Jericho [oldest] and another is Shaar Hogolan where I spent two summers digging. People live and built houses in Shaar Hogolan from aout 6400 to 5800 BC long before your so called creation of Adam.
I have to go for right now but I will be back to finish correcting your statements on archaeology. Please do not go away.
[/quote]

NOTE: THIS RESPONSE COVERS TWO POSTING BOXES

Very excellent post. You appear to have a firm grasp on archaeology, species histories, and pseudo scientific dating methods. You appear credible and accurate in you retelling of pseudo-scientific fact and history and claim to be somewhat of an expert in the field. I did not check your reference regarding the books you referenced and probablly will not although I will accept your word that they are accurate to scientific facts and so I have no need to. Our people have worked with some of the best and brightest minds in the world in almost every possible sector.

I am not an expert on archaeology by any means, which is good for this post because it will signify that I can’t trump you in the field of archaeology intellectually or through superior experience. That will allow for more light to be shed on the infallibility of the scriptures regardless of the capacity of a man to merely see and try to explain in whatever way makes the most sense (even if it still doesn’t make sense).
However, before I start to address your questions (or challenges) I will start off by confirming the accuracy and fact of some of your statements to help further validify your position in the worlds scientific system and to grant more credibility to your intellectual capacity for readers who might have know idea what your talking about. I noticed that you used rough estimates in your dates and I will cite the more specific scientific dates, but they will line up closely with your facts which will allow others to see that we are of the same accord in regards to the dates and events.

I will cite some of your statements followed by my own validation (or close representation) from my own comprehensive timeline comprised of both secular and biblical resources that I keep in my notebook. These are all from my personal collection and are not drawn from the internet but through meticulous international research of historical documents, records and history books. Anything prior to Adam I will date as YBA or years before Adam, which counts backward the same as measuring time in BC. Pre Adamic discoveries will be dated according to the original carbon date performed or the most scientifically accepted date. After Adam (if I cite any) will contain 2 or 3 dates. One will be AM (after man) which starts with the creation and counts counsecutively 1-6000 years. In addition I will include B.C., A.D. and/or WSY (World Sabbatical Year). I will post your original quotes in red and my additional figures in black bold type to minimize confusion.

NOTE: You will notice that one of your species is not included as it has not been added to my archive and confirmed by the record yet in my own resource, but due to the validity of your other statements we will just assume that you were equally accurate in your account of it. Also, for other readers who want to verify, Im sure you could find the figures online, although I would caution that approach due to the wide gray area between fact and fiction that the internet is. Most of your libraries or schools will have resources available to you for more accurate analysis of the scientific record. I would not be comfortable repeating facts like those below from an unconfirmed internet source nor would I trust them. (Unless you have membership to any of the various online academic communities)

-A. afarensis [that lived from 3.5 to 2.8 millions years ago]

-Autralopithecus afarensis- Lucy, the most complete A. afarensis skeleton was found in Hadar, Ethiopia. (YBA-3,594,020)

-African H. erectus [lived 1.5 to 800,000 years ago] some later Homo's

-Homo erectus populations reach south and southeast Asia (YBA –1,794,020)
-Earliest evidence of the use of fire found at Chesowanja, Kenya, and Swartkrans, South --Africa. (YBA – 1,594,020)
-Homo erectus reaches Europe and Asia, and also the Modern Ice Age or Pleistocene begins. (YBA – 994,020)

CONTINUE ON NEXT POST...

 

[Lucius7]

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-then the Neanderthals about 120,000 BC, they were the first humans to bury their dead and were present from western Europe to Soviet Central Asia

-Date given for oldest, anatomically modern, human fossils from Omo, Ethiopia. (YBA 129,020)
-A hut, found in Amata France, is the oldest known structure built by Pre-Adamic human-type beings. (YBA –294,020)
-Inhabitants of Africa begin outward migration to Eurasia. (YBA-94,020)
-Anatomically modern human-types living in Qafzeh, Israel. (YBA 84, 020)
-Anatomically modern human-types enter and begin to colonize Europe. They are living simultaneously with the indigenous Neanderthals. (YBA- 34,020)
-“Venus” figurines with exaggerated sexual features are found from Spain to Russia. (YBA 19,020)
-Estimated date of modern human type settlements in North America at BlueFish Cave, Alaska. (YBA- 9,020)
-Higher Rainfall makes the Sahara habitable again as the last worldwide glaciations end and earth’s climate warms again. (YBA – 6, 020)
-The earth has ceased its climactic extremes and ends in a final state of dampness, disorder, and decay. This condition is described as “TOHU” and “BOHU” in the Aramaic/Hebrew language, when the recreation of an environment for Adam begin.

-I have another book used in archaeology called: ARCHAEOLOGY OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE - 10,000-586 BCE". This book tells of all the people that had lived and died in Palestine in the last 12,000 years. These are real humans like you and I with the same type of DNA as you have. On page 39 is a map of all the major dig sites in Israel of cities that are up to 10,000 years old. There are 22 cities. One of them is Jericho [oldest] and another is Shaar Hogolan where I spent two summers digging. People live and built houses in Shaar Hogolan from aout 6400 to 5800 BC long before your so called creation of Adam.


-Most of this has already been addressed in the historical record above. Pre-Adamic humans built tools, musical instruments, shelters and huts, and did live in Palestine and Israel. These were the descendants and ancestors of the humanoid species’ listed above. You are arguing under the assumptions that only humans use tools, play music and build cities, despite the fact that the modern animal kingdom can supply innumerous examples of animals that can do all of the above by design. Why would you expect that creatures with all of our same physical characteristics would have lived and built in a way that is not similar to our own species? How else would they have thrived and survived and satisfied their needs? Though there intellectual capacity for advanced reasoning were not as developed to the extent that ours is, they would certainly have been considered among the most intelligent and logical species in the pre-Adamic world. I assure you without any shadow of a doubt, using GODs record and in many respects, mans record too, that the anatomically modern human-type beings which lived in Palestine were NOT post-Adamic humans. There is no confirmed scientific or otherwise proof which can clearly and truthfully identify those remains with our modern human species. Any attempt to make assumptions based on theories are not fully justified.

SUMMARY and Final Statements


There is a dated historical record of Humanoid bipedal creatures dating back as far as YBA 3,494,020 from Tanzania and existing all the way through until the recreation. They lived, built, migrated, and functioned in ways very similar to the earliest post-Adamic civilizations.

As far as your references to secular books, I have probably at least seen them or variants or spinoffs of them. I don’t know they didn’t ring a bell to me. However, it does not matter. Man has been trying to explain history outside of GODs Word since ancient Babylon. Pseudo science has become a massive multi-trillion dollar propaganda tool internationally. It takes real events, history and evidence and applies flawed logic and science to deceive humanity. I have an even more comprehensive archive of dated and compiled post-Adamic human history to show world sabbatical history and secular history dating back well before the Exodus from Egypt and the formation of the written Hebrew calendar. Before words and scribes mankind kept flawless records of time and dates through astrology, and observance of the seasons and primarily, through counting Sabbaths in 7 day increments for thousands of years. Due to time, I just can’t enter into that topic right now because I would like to devote some time to responding to other posts. This has already turned into a short essay and could go on for another 100 pages before concluding accurately. I have read your second post and can answer all of your challenges in detail with even more historical data but for the sake of time I am going to refrain from responding to your second post at this time. With your permission I might even copy your two posts into a new thread once this one conludes where we can devote more time to studying the science and history in depth where we can articulate more freely on this matter. I don’t want you to feel like I’m neglecting to address all of your questions.

PS- I did forget to answer your first question, “When did GOD create those pre-Adamic species?” The answer is found in Genesis 1:19-20. It was the fourth day of the original creation (4,000 years from the beginning of the first creation) over a period of 1,000 years. However, the date of the beginning of the first creation is impossible to tell using the bible or secular historical data. The amount of time which the first creation remained in tact is also impossible to calculate and irrelevant to our situation. However it is important to note that during this time period of millions and millions of years Lucifer was given earth as a habitation for himself and 1/3 of angels under his authority, Lucifer eventually rebelled against GOD in an attempted coup and was hurled back to earth causing massive geological trauma which annihilated much of the living population of earth (dinosaurs included) as the earth entered into rapid cycles of destruction as the earth reeled back and forth on its axis triggering natural disasters and massive storms and in the end caused the extinction of pre-Adamic life. This all occurred over the time included in the above condensed chronology of the species. Hope that answers more questions than it generates.

PSS- I would also like to provide you with a more comprehensive scriptural reference collection, but that to will have to wait probably until I have time to actually devote to compiling a more comprehensive essay on the subject. I will be happy to provide references for one or two subjects of your choosing to at least verify that they are real and not existent only in my mind, but that I will leave for you to decide.

PSSS-CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT
I did in fact make an error in my explaination of the counting of the 6,000 year period. The 6,000 years (6 Days) of human self rule began the moment Adam ate of the fruit, not at his creation. This is also why it impossible for man to exactly calculate the day and hour at which Christ will return. We can only roughly estimate the starting point by analyzing the events in Adams life and placing it within a certain time period within his 930 year lifespan. Also note that GOD told Adam in Genesis 2:17 "but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." Adam died at 930 years of age, exactly 70 years prior to the end of his first day (1,000 years on GODs count of a day). This is one (but a very compelling) proof of GODs definition of a day as a 1,000 year period. There are many more throughout scripture.

 

[Lucius7]

A thousand years of rest?

BORING!!

Besides, what will happen after that? 6,000 more years of hard work?

Read Revelation Ch 18-end of book. It is laid out in more detail.

The 1,000 year millenium will be a time during which Jesus the Christ will take position as King of kings and Lord of lords over his resurrected Elect who will rule according to the Law as kings and priests as Divine Elect, and who will teach and govern the remaining human population who will experience life as it was intended in the beginning in the garden of Eden. Jesus the Christ will restore the entire earth to its origtinal condition (Garden of Eden). After this time all of humanity who was ever concieved who never heard the truth and understood it (those whose time to see was not in this life) will be ressurected and experience the full potential of life in a perfect world prior to Satan being released for a short period to attempt to decieve humanity which has now seen and heard the truth firsthand and are mature enough to choose between GOD and Satan. After this the Great Harvest occurs during which the vast majority of humanity will be transformed into Divine beings with new "physical" bodies, Satan and his demons and all of the wicked dead who rejected the truth are permanately destroyed in a great fire which will consume the present heavens and the earth. GOD then comes down in the New Jerusalem where HE is united with HIS Divine family and then GODs incomprehensible plan for humanity will actually begin.

 

[Apollos]

Lucius -

What a BIG disappointment - your reply. It was nothing. A big supporter of the "sabbath" like you ought to be able to do better than that !
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Lucius - I don't really know how to deal with this post.

This is quite obvious from your (lack of) reply!

Lucius - It uses non contextual scriptural references mixed with accurate statements mixed with completely non scriptural conclusions.

And yet you did not take the time to refute even ONE point - how disingenuous (oh, and convenient as well).

Lucius - There are several completely false claims which you can never support using full scripture. It lacks integrity to make it a valid argument to debate in it's current state.

Really? Which ones? Oh, that's right - not ONE refutation. Your reply lacks credibility. Of course, a reply with substance might vindicate your seeming lack of knowledge on this topic. Can you do that?

Lucius - I won't debate this but challenge you to a question. If you can answer it I will concede to you.

We all see that you wont! And you finish with a "double standard". You ask ME to answer your point without YOU answering even ONE of mine - lol !
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Lucius - Where in all of scriptures does GOD ever once approve of the abolishment of the Sabbath or limit it to Old Covenant Hebrews?

God sent His Son to die on the cross to establish a NEW covenant - see passages like Luke 22:20, 1 Cor. 11:25, and Hebrews 9:15.

In Romans 7 Paul tells us it is "spiritual adultery" to live by TWO covenants.

In order for Chirst to be a priest- there was a change of the law - see Hebrews 7:12.

Lucius - you need to update your covenant !
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Lucius - (Remember that Jesus observed the Sabbath and the full Mosaic Law to perfection)

As I mentioned in my frist post, the OLD covenant was made with the Jews. Jesus was a Jew born under the law - Galatians 4:4. AFTER His death on the cross (the "blood" of the NEW covenant) that NEW covenant could be made with God. That OLD covenant was - as Paul succintly puts it - was "nailed to the cross" ! See Colossians 2:14.
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Tell us Lucius...

>>>When and How did the Gentiles come to be under the OLD covenant?
(The “sabbath” was given to ISRAEL - - - Exodus 16:29, 31:16,31.)

>>>Was the "sabbath" given just after creation? What scripture tells us this?
(The “sabbath” was given at “Sinai” - Exodus 16, Exodus 20:8.)

>>>Was the OLD covenant made with the Jews... or everybody on earth?
(The OLD covenant was made with Israel - Exodus 16:29, 31:16,31.)


>>>If the "sabbath" was a SIGN between God and the Jews - what purpose would the "sabbath" have for the Gentiles?

(It was a SIGN between God and Israel. See Exodus - 20:12,20, 31:16,31, Deut. 5:15.)
(Because Israel had no rest in Egypt and God delivered them out of the land - Deut. 5:15.)

Scriptures please ! No more of your “blanket” dismissals please !!

 

[kai]

yes a very puzzling thing this sabbath, he has the power to create the universe but must rest after, requires us to rest on the seventh day of the week, don't make much sense to me , i know it must be an Allegory!

 

[Lucius7]

Lucius -

What a BIG disappointment - your reply. It was nothing. A big supporter of the "sabbath" like you ought to be able to do better than that !
- - -

Lucius - I don't really know how to deal with this post.

This is quite obvious from your (lack of) reply!

Lucius - It uses non contextual scriptural references mixed with accurate statements mixed with completely non scriptural conclusions.

And yet you did not take the time to refute even ONE point - how disingenuous (oh, and convenient as well).

Lucius - There are several completely false claims which you can never support using full scripture. It lacks integrity to make it a valid argument to debate in it's current state.

Really? Which ones? Oh, that's right - not ONE refutation. Your reply lacks credibility. Of course, a reply with substance might vindicate your seeming lack of knowledge on this topic. Can you do that?

Lucius - I won't debate this but challenge you to a question. If you can answer it I will concede to you.

We all see that you wont! And you finish with a "double standard". You ask ME to answer your point without YOU answering even ONE of mine - lol !
- - -

Lucius - Where in all of scriptures does GOD ever once approve of the abolishment of the Sabbath or limit it to Old Covenant Hebrews?

God sent His Son to die on the cross to establish a NEW covenant - see passages like Luke 22:20, 1 Cor. 11:25, and Hebrews 9:15.

In Romans 7 Paul tells us it is "spiritual adultery" to live by TWO covenants.

In order for Chirst to be a priest- there was a change of the law - see Hebrews 7:12.

Lucius - you need to update your covenant !
- - -

Lucius - (Remember that Jesus observed the Sabbath and the full Mosaic Law to perfection)

As I mentioned in my frist post, the OLD covenant was made with the Jews. Jesus was a Jew born under the law - Galatians 4:4. AFTER His death on the cross (the "blood" of the NEW covenant) that NEW covenant could be made with God. That OLD covenant was - as Paul succintly puts it - was "nailed to the cross" ! See Colossians 2:14.
- - - - - - - - - -

Tell us Lucius...

>>>When and How did the Gentiles come to be under the OLD covenant?
(The “sabbath” was given to ISRAEL - - - Exodus 16:29, 31:16,31.)

>>>Was the "sabbath" given just after creation? What scripture tells us this?
(The “sabbath” was given at “Sinai” - Exodus 16, Exodus 20:8.)

>>>Was the OLD covenant made with the Jews... or everybody on earth?
(The OLD covenant was made with Israel - Exodus 16:29, 31:16,31.)


>>>If the "sabbath" was a SIGN between God and the Jews - what purpose would the "sabbath" have for the Gentiles?

(It was a SIGN between God and Israel. See Exodus - 20:12,20, 31:16,31, Deut. 5:15.)
(Because Israel had no rest in Egypt and God delivered them out of the land - Deut. 5:15.)

Scriptures please ! No more of your “blanket” dismissals please !!

POST 1 of 3
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I apologize for causing you offense. It was not intentional. If you read every post in this thread you will see that I have faithfully and quite laborously (not a word maybe) responded and delt with every post. Other posters came to me with solid theories and ideas or questions and were seeking a productive and academic dialogue. I have taken peoples questions of theories/philosophies and compared them with scriptures with references, secular history and in some cases I have simply shared the truths in my own words drawing upon my own knowledge of the scriptures and their original meanings without comprehensive scriptural references just for the sake of time and chronological readability. For every one scripture that you see in my post, I have at my fingertips hundreds more which revalidate and revalidate the same truths. They are not my own nor do I have the capacity or power to change them. The 1 paragraph summary of the Sabbath which I posted as the answer to this thread originated from an exhaustive scripturally referenced report with everysingle scriptural reference in the Bible barring none, which have anything to do with the subject. The same can be said about a great many of the topics discussed. For those who are really interested in learning the scriptural truths which have been hidden from the world, I hope that the accuracy and validity of all of the references and statements which I do make form an amount of credibility so that it is not necessary for me to do add an additional 200 pages to this thread just to comprehensively cover each question. I am more than willing to provide references to validate my statements, and for each one I have so many references that If I gave them all to you it would be easily another 30 days before you could even go back yourself and analyze and verify them yourself in context with the other scriptures.
That being said. Let me answer why I did not reply to your post as I did the others. There is one singular reason above the others. In your post you did not merely state an opinion, you used GODs word out of context and irresponsibly to advance your own doctrine contrary to the written and inspired word of GOD. In the Old Covenant GOD would bring death to those who practiced this form of deception (whether intentionally or unintentionally.) I realize that that goes on in this forum and in religion all around the world every single day, but I take no part in it nor do I entertain it if not necessary or inspired to do so. If you had presented the same information in the form of a question or inquiry I would have been far more inclined to address it more fully with scriptural truths. It is abundantly clear that you don't understand the scriptures and what they mean. In addition I asked you to to prove at least your viewpoint with relevant scripture to save the time of me having to provide scripture to the contrary. If you had attempted to find such a reference to my question you woulod never have been able to post a valid response thus eliminating the need for me to prove it myself. Thirdly, the reason that I chose to use that method was because the answer to everything you were asking for has to one extent or the other been answered and/or invalidated already in this thread in my responses to other posts. I've answered the question of the thread and my answer will not change or evolve.

However, because this post is being read by the other members I am going to address your first paragraph only, with a fairly comprehensive scriptural reference collection along with a summary disproof of the validity of your statements according to scripture so that it is made clear that you have misinterpreted the scriptures under the premise that what is partially corrupt is corrupt as a whole. This will also invalidate your implications and provocations that I am not able to prove your statements false or am at a loss to answer your presumptions. This will also act to invalidate any further attempts by you to attack me publicly so that I don't have to defend my credibility to you anymore. I ask you to cease in your agressive dialogue.

The following post will be my summary rebuttal followed with scriptural validation, and then the following post after that will list a more exhaustive collection of references. Once you have read it I will not entertain anymore of this. If you refute it then I will leave it up to others to decide for themselves who has properly used the scriptures and who has not regarding the paragraph. Only GOD gives eyes to see and ears to hear in HIS timing not mine or anyone elses.

 

[Lucius7]

POST 2 of 3
Response to Apollos

1st paragraph of the post by Apollos


The “sabbath” that was observed by the Jews upon the 7th day of the week on the other hand is not and was never intended to be a part of the eternal plan of God. When one studies some simple facts about what the “sabbath” was, and why the “sabbath” was given, it is easy to understand why no one is obligated to observe it, or should observe it today.

(first of all facts are of no relevance to the Truth. Facts change with human perceptions. Truths are ungoverned by human perceptions.)



Summary of a rebuttal against paragraph 1 of the post using the rightly divided contextual Word of GOD using KJV English

​

Here is a small selection of scriptural references proving the continued command to Observe the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a commandment and prequisite for all of GODs children to be eligible for HIS benefits and provision as heirs. It is a part of the Law which GOD says “not one jot nor tittle (infentesimal amount) shall be taken from this Law till ALL be fulfilled.”MAT 5:18 Scriptures clearly identify the fulfillment of the current physical and spiritual fulfillment of HIS Plan and Purpose at the moment after 7,000 plus years are up and GOD Himself has destroyed all of the earth and the celestial heavens, Satan and His demons and the wicked dead, and GOD Himself descends to be reunited with HIS Divine Family. REV 18-22. Jesus taught and observed the Sabbath day every Sabbath in accordance to the Law. Had He violated a single Sabbath He would have become imperfect, making Him ineligible as an atonement for sin according to the scriptural prequisites. In fact, a vast portion of Mathew-John is devoted to Jesus constantly being accused for violating the Sabbath by the Pharisees according to there corrupted system, and Jesus silencing them with GODs truths and principles regarding what is and is not acceptable on the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a binding contract, continued violation of which results in termination from GODs family. It is THE most commanded observance in the bible and is repeated over and over again in scripture. In Revelation 22:14, John says “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates of the city.” This is the 7th to last verse in the Bible (not by accident) and yet even at the very close of the Bible GOD once again emphasizes through HIS apostle the absolute necessity for continued observance of the Law which is binding until the termination of this earth.



ADDITIONAL SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES




EXO 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe
the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual
covenant.
(GOD commands HIS children to observe the Sabbath throughout all generations as a perpetual covenant. Dictionary.com defines perpetual as continuing or enduring forever; everlasting.

LEV 16:31 It [shall be] a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your
souls, by a statute for ever.
(Again, GOD commands observance of the Sabbath for HIS people until the termination of our present physical reality.)


MAR 1:21 And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
(Jesus, the great High Priest, entered into the synagogue and taught on the Sabbath in accordance with keeping the Holy convocation.)

MAR 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man
for the sabbath:
(Jesus is telling the Pharisees that GOD made the Sabbath for mankind. If the Sabbath were no longer a commanded observance why would Jesus be wasting breath talking about it?)

MAR 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
(This is a really big one to shatter the idea of the Sabbath being null and void. Jesus is literally saying that He is the same YeHoWaH who ordained the Sabbath and that it was by His authority that it was provisioned for all of His children on the last creation day.)

MAR 6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the
synagogue: and many hearing [him] were astonished, saying, From
whence hath this [man] these things? and what wisdom [is] this
which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by
his hands?
(Once again, Jesus is fulfilling His role as a teacher and priest by observing and teaching on the Sabbath in the synagogue.)

LUK 13:10 And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
(another example of Jesus observing the Sabbath)

LUK 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested
the sabbath day according to the commandment.
(this references the first Sabbath after Christs death. They are female disciples who followed Christs body to the tomb and then rested according to the Sabbath commandment. These were actual physical recipients of Christs teachings and examples. If He not acknowledged the continuation of the Sabbath commands, they would not have been observing it.)

ACS 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where
prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the
women which resorted [thither].
ACS 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath
days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
ACS 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the

Jews and the Greeks.
(All three of these are examples of the Apostle Paul observing and teaching on the Sabbath)

ACS 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they
knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read
every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him].
(Paul says the word of GOD is read every Sabbath day. Clearly in order for that to be the case the Sabbath was still an observance.)

 

[Lucius7]

POST 3 of 3

ADDITIONAL SCRIPTURAL REFERENCE OF EVERY SINGLE TIME THE WORD SABBATH APPEARS IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW AND THE NEW TESTAMENT IN KJV​

(To be analyzed through scriptural context and not as lone verses)​

EXO 16:23 And he said unto them, This [is that] which the LORD hath said,
Tomorrow [is] the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake
[that] which ye will bake [today], and seethe that ye will seethe;
and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the
morning.
EXO 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that today; for today [is] a sabbath unto the
LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
EXO 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, [which is] the
sabbath, in it there shall be none.
EXO 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he
giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every
man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh
day.
EXO 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
EXO 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it]
thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,
thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy
stranger that [is] within thy gates:
EXO 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all
that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD
blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
EXO 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it [is] holy unto you:
every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for
whosoever doeth [any] work therein, that soul shall be cut off from
among his people.
EXO 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of
rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath
day, he shall surely be put to death.
EXO 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe
the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual
covenant.
EXO 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be
to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth
work therein shall be put to death.
EXO 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the
sabbath day.
LEV 16:31 It [shall be] a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your
souls, by a statute for ever.
LEV 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath
of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it
[is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
LEV 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for
you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
LEV 23:15 ¶ And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath,
from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven
sabbaths shall be complete:
LEV 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number
fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
LEV 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in
the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial
of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
LEV 23:32 It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your
souls: in the ninth [day] of the month at even, from even unto
even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
LEV 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have
gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the
LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the
eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.
LEV 24:8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually,
[being taken] from the children of Israel by an everlasting
covenant.
LEV 25:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come
into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath
unto the LORD.
LEV 25:4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a
sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune
thy vineyard.
LEV 25:6 And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and
for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and
for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee,
NUM 15:32 ¶ And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they
found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
NUM 28:9 ¶ And on the sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot,
and two tenth deals of flour [for] a meat offering, mingled with
oil, and the drink offering thereof:
NUM 28:10 [This is] the burnt offering of every sabbath, beside the continual
burnt offering, and his drink offering.
DEU 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath
commanded thee.

Sorry an additional post will be required. Please proceed to part four.

 

[Lucius7]

further continuation of scriptural references in post 3

DEU 5:14 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it]
thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,
nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine
***, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy
gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as
thou.
DEU 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and
[that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty
hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God
commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
MAT 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and
his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn,
and to eat.
MAT 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto him, Behold, thy
disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
MAT 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the
priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
MAT 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
MAT 12:10 ¶ And, behold, there was a man which had [his] hand withered. And
they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days?
that they might accuse him.
MAT 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that
shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day,
will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out?
MAT 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful
to do well on the sabbath days.
MAT 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the
sabbath day:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first
[day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see
the sepulchre.
MAR 1:21 And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he
entered into the synagogue, and taught.
MAR 2:23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the
sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the
ears of corn.
MAR 2:24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath
day that which is not lawful?
MAR 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man
for the sabbath:
MAR 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
MAR 3:2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day;
that they might accuse him.
MAR 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath
days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their
peace.
MAR 6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the
synagogue: and many hearing [him] were astonished, saying, From
whence hath this [man] these things? and what wisdom [is] this
which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by
his hands?
MAR 15:42 ¶ And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation,
that is, the day before the sabbath,
MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the
[mother] of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they
might come and anoint him.
LUK 4:16 ¶ And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as
his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and
stood up for to read.
LUK 4:31 And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on
the sabbath days.
LUK 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he
went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of
corn, and did eat, rubbing [them] in [their] hands.
LUK 6:2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which
is not lawful to do on the sabbath days?
LUK 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the
sabbath.
LUK 6:6 And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into
the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was
withered.
LUK 6:7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on
the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
LUK 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful
on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to
destroy [it]?
LUK 13:10 And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
LUK 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because
that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people,
There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore
come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.

Sorry, again I will have to continue the references on another post. Please proceed to part 5

 

[aubrey4220]

Easiest question in the world.

Because back in those days, you had to work sunrise to sunset and further just to survive.

The Sabbath was appointed so that man would have a day of rest.

In today's society, where 14-hour work is not necessary in order to survive, the Sabbath is not necessary either.

Why on earth would God put keeping the Sabbath in the Bible if he didn't intend for us to keep it now. He is not stupid - if he is the Great Almighty being that he says and we believe he is then why would he waste his time and breath saying that we should keep the Sabbath and then say "Oh nah - you don't have to keep it - it's only to make the Bible interesting."

 

[Lucius7]

Continuing scriptural references continued from post 4

LUK 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, [Thou] hypocrite, doth not
each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or [his] *** from the
stall, and lead [him] away to watering?
LUK 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan
hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on
the sabbath day?
LUK 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief
Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
LUK 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying,
Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
LUK 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an *** or an ox
fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the
sabbath day?
LUK 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
LUK 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested
the sabbath day according to the commandment.
JOH 5:9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and
walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
JOH 5:10 ¶ The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the
sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry [thy] bed.
JOH 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him,
because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
JOH 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only
had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father,
making himself equal with God.
JOH 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of
Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a
man.
JOH 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of
Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made
a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
JOH 9:14 And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his
eyes.
JOH 9:16 Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God,
because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man
that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among
them.
JOH 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies
should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that
sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might
be broken, and [that] they might be taken away.
ACS 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet,
which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
ACS 13:14 ¶ But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in
Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat
down.

Thats all folks. For additional info read the entire thread. Your three scriptural references are correct regarding the written account of the Law to Moses. Prior to Moses the Law was kept by oral tradition beginning with Adam who communed personally with GOD in Eden and thus recieved the Law directly and passed it to his children so forth through Abraham, Issac, and Jacob (all of which followed the Law PRIOR to its written introduction to the Hebrews) until it became lost during the Hebrew bondage in Egypt and was added unto them again through Moses on Sinai with GODs promise that it would be preserved henceforth for all generations to follow. Thus despite providing three accurate references you proceed to use them to promote a false doctine using GODs Word which was summarily that the Sabbath and commandments were not required until Exodus.

GEN 17:9 ¶ And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
Abraham was keeping the covenent well before Sinai.

 

[Amazed]

The only sign of יהוה setting us apart, the only sign of the everlasting covenant, is His Sabbaths, one of them being the seventh day Sabbath.

Remember the Sabbath day, to set it apart.