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Please try to disprove anything I believe.
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Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
What do you mean by "Spirit Frist"?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
read the whole quote....
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Thief
Rogue Theologian
well then..... I might as well talk to a rock
and substance is not 'self' starting....
Spirit first
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
First of all it is not self starting it was always there.
Second of all there is no evidence for "spirit".
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
Matter and energy in the universe cannot be created nor destroyed, only re-appropriated. Therefore, whatever matter is made of - it's here for good. Do you believe there will ever be a point in time where there is, literally, "nothing"? Do you believe all things will ultimately traverse their "life span"?
Kueid
Avant-garde
What is that? You have to define something first to say anything about it. Show us your knowledge and define God!
Again, what do you think is faith?
Energy? Is this some kind of supernatural entity or something? What is your thought on that word?
Universe you mean UNI (one, sole, unique) VERSE (vertices, turn, bend) like some metaphoric way to describe everything that is?
And immorality? and amorality? Those are learned?
Ouch.
Banjankri
Active Member
It's improvable.
Morality is just a concept, used to frame behavior into social norms.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
1) Please clam down.
2) I define a personal god as a deity that is not simply a part of nature.
Belief without evidence.
No, it is the same energy that we work with in the sciences.
No, I am using it as a word to describe all of existence.
In most individuals.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Seeing as we have no evidence for a beginning or an end for the universe it is the most probable conclusion.
Every word we use is a concept.
Banjankri
Active Member
The best conclusions is to admin that we simply don't know. Every other conclusions is tainted with falsehood.
Yes. Are words innate?
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
This is obviously a working assumption.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
The potential to make them is.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
"Tomorrows_Child, post: 4630260, member: 58772"]I fail to understand why so many atheists on here claim to be "scientific" but don't seem to know the basics of what is happening right now.
The most recent theories in physics, as professed by such people as Prof. Kraus, indicate that the universe originated from an eternal, infinite pool of energy (the term energy is used rather than say...God) which is neither created nor destroyed and exists beyond our realm of time and space. The universe exists within our realm of time and space and although there is a lot of discourse on the issue of the universes span (finite or infinite), that discourse has moved ahead at a fast rate overt he last decade or so, with the idea that the universe being finite but the origins of the universe being infinite.
It can all be quite confusing because no one in the western scientific community feels like they are willing to put their finger on the truth which their own theories profess because if they did, well...[/QUOTE]
Tried to find an article with Krauss stating that the universe came from an eternal infinite pool of energy. Can you point me to the paper??? I am aware of his hypothesis that the universe can indeed come from nothing, but even he says that is every tentative and may turn out to be wrong. Why does energy equal god (and which god). Krauss has quantum physics to fall back on at least...what do you have?
The most recent theories in physics, as professed by such people as Prof. Kraus, indicate that the universe originated from an eternal, infinite pool of energy (the term energy is used rather than say...God) which is neither created nor destroyed and exists beyond our realm of time and space. The universe exists within our realm of time and space and although there is a lot of discourse on the issue of the universes span (finite or infinite), that discourse has moved ahead at a fast rate overt he last decade or so, with the idea that the universe being finite but the origins of the universe being infinite.
It can all be quite confusing because no one in the western scientific community feels like they are willing to put their finger on the truth which their own theories profess because if they did, well...[/QUOTE]
Tried to find an article with Krauss stating that the universe came from an eternal infinite pool of energy. Can you point me to the paper??? I am aware of his hypothesis that the universe can indeed come from nothing, but even he says that is every tentative and may turn out to be wrong. Why does energy equal god (and which god). Krauss has quantum physics to fall back on at least...what do you have?
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
How so?
Maponos
Welcome to the Opera
What makes your beliefs special enough for people to need to disprove them?
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Why do you think beliefs need to be special to be disproven?
My motive is that if a belief I have is disproven then that means I was freed from self-delusion.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
an item at rest will remain at rest.
it will not move by it's own volition