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Not if God is more of a concept than a substance. How many bananas go into an idea?If god isn't something, then it is nothing. You might want to rethink that
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Not if God is more of a concept than a substance. How many bananas go into an idea?If god isn't something, then it is nothing. You might want to rethink that
If God is Everything, then the question is moot.
Not if God is more of a concept than a substance. How many bananas go into an idea?
It's not a thing (as in physical, material). It's a concept.Well, a concept is also something, is it not?
And that's totally fair. The idea of God as a creature, being, entity, person, etc comes from the old ancient religions, but over time, there are some modern philosophies where God isn't a thing in that sense.But if god is only a concept, then god is no more real than the characters in Harry Potter. I'm okay with that.
"God has a size?"
It's not a thing (as in physical, material). It's a concept.
How many carrots can the quadratic formula fit in a square? It's a ludicrous question because the categories don't match. God isn't a "thing" in that sense that it can be compared to making things bigger than him/her/it-self, since God (to me) is the concept of All things. If God then could "create" a thing bigger than all things, then it wouldn't be a thing that it created since it then would be part of what God is.
And that's totally fair. The idea of God as a creature, being, entity, person, etc comes from the old ancient religions, but over time, there are some modern philosophies where God isn't a thing in that sense.
Think of the theory of evolution. Is that a thing? Can evolution create a bigger evolution that itself?
What could be an answer towards a question like this: "Can God create something bigger than himself?"
Of course!
That is the very essence of the word 'create'.
What dictionary are you using???LOL
What dictionary?
The www of course.
If it's on the internet, it must be correct
Agree. But the title of the thread is "paradox can god create something bigger than himself" assumes that God exists in some way. Your view that God doesn't exist doesn't contribute anything to the discussion in the thread. Any theological debate can be swiped away with a little hand gesture and the comment, "prove God exists first." But that usually only signifies that the person doesn't really want to contribute or partake in the discussion.Until the god has been shown to exist, it doesn't make any since to worry about what size it is.
Ok. And consciousness, thoughts, gravity, light, energy, π, ∞, quadratic formula, stories, ideas, opinions are also then things. That makes the concept of God a thing in your view. Fine. That's how you see it, but I see a distinction between these "things." That's the reason why I put it in quotes in the first post that you questioned.Yes, evolution is a thing.
I think we're talking about "things" in a bit different ways. When I was talking about things here, I was talking about physical, tangible things, not abstract or conceptual things. Sorry for the confusion, but I thought it was obvious that I wasn't talking about things in your aspect.Doesn't matter what it can or can't do. That does not change the fact that it exists, as a scientific theory, and as a natural process. A god cannot exist without being a thing. No matter how you want to stretch and contort the definition of a god as commonly understood, you are left with a thing.
It's a nonsensical question... and btw .... the New Testament says 'God cannot lie'[/QUOTE
Yes, but who's word is in the new testament? You are saying god cannot lie because god told you he cannot lie. That is very circular thinking
Infinity and naive set theory interesting topic!!! You should read the Russell paradox in math and comeback and reframe the question. As the same time read the gruelling Nelson parAdox in language. Religion personified infinity into an actor in a play. Where reality is the stage, it's populated with actors, and independent of the stage is a director in another dimension. So our modern multi abstractive tmi dimensional thinking got started in religion. Its bogus phosophically it's valid interpersomally but the writers understAnd this the readers dontWhat could be an answer towards a question like this: "Can God create something bigger than himself?"
Infinity and naive set theory interesting topic!!! You should read the Russell paradox in math and comeback and reframe the question. As the same time read the gruelling Nelson parAdox in language. Religion personified infinity into an actor in a play. Where reality is the stage, it's populated with actors, and independent of the stage is a director in another dimension. So our modern multi abstractive tmi dimensional thinking got started in religion. Its bogus phosophically it's valid interpersomally but the writers understAnd this the readers dont
The physical is never contained by thOddly enough, the traditional Christian god (to pick one) is said to be able to do the impossible (miracles) therefore he could do such a thing, however nonsensical it might sound
Oddly enough the bible isn't a science text. Can you believe that!!!! Although Christian philosophislzing turned it into one magically which has zero to do with the text!!! How is it possible to both read something and be clueless about it? How is the statement there is no such thing as a free lunch except for the cosmos also a rather clueless statement but people say it all the time ?Oddly enough, the traditional Christian god (to pick one) is said to be able to do the impossible (miracles) therefore he could do such a thing, however nonsensical it might sound
One of three possibilities:
you have awfully short arms
you have an awfully long tongue
you lie a lot
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What could be an answer towards a question like this: "Can God create something bigger than himself?"