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maybe love is the ultimate answer?

SaintAugustine

At the Monastery
All you need is love..the Beatles..

God is love...1 John 4:18

Is forgiveness, love, acceptance..the final answers...??
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend SA

Yes Bhakti yoga or approaching God through prayers in mainly through love and devotion.

Love & rgds
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
how to define love?

a lot of people love themselves and that is not necessarily a good thing.

how about the love of Mammon?
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
how to define love?

a lot of people love themselves and that is not necessarily a good thing.

how about the love of Mammon?

Baby, don't hurt me?

I guess love towards every living being instead of love towards Mammon would be the answer.
 

blackout

Violet.
All you need is love..the Beatles..

God is love...1 John 4:18

Is forgiveness, love, acceptance..the final answers...??

Lack of acceptance seems to go hand in hand with those who frequently purporte to love, and exault love the most.
Christians/Muslims and Homosexuality (also Transgender) for example.

People's notions of love differ so vastly
as to be completely useless as any kind of a 'standard'.
(of behavior, thoughts, feelings or anything else)
 
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Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Lack of acceptance seems to go hand in hand with those who frequently purporte to love, and exault love the most.
Christians/Muslims and Homosexuality (also Transgender) for example.

People's notions of love differ so vastly
as to be completely useless as any kind of a 'standard'.
(of behavior, thoughts, feelings or anything else)
Lack of acceptance does not necessarily equate to no love.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
All you need is love..the Beatles..

God is love...1 John 4:18

Is forgiveness, love, acceptance..the final answers...??

Yes, I do believe so. Love is the ultimate reality once we cast off our ignorance. Forgiveness and acceptance are a product of loving.
 

Student of X

Paradigm Shifter
All you need is love..the Beatles..

God is love...1 John 4:18

Is forgiveness, love, acceptance..the final answers...??

Yeah they are the final answers because they lead to the final transformation.

“When love has carried us above and beyond all things,” he says in another place, “above the light, into the Divine Dark, there we are wrought and transformed by the Eternal Word Who is the image of the Father; and as the air is penetrated by the sun, thus we receive in idleness of spirit the Incomprehensible Light, enfolding us and penetrating us. And this flight is nothing else but an infinite gazing and seeing. We behold that which we are, and we are that which be behold; because our thought, life and being are uplifted in simplicity and made one with the Truth which is God.” 868
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
To what question? (For the second time, in the thread.)
 
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blackout

Violet.
Lack of acceptance does not necessarily equate to no love.

When you love somebody,
you actually love them--
"them" being "who they actually are".

Lack of acceptance makes one unable to *love what is there*.


*love as in.... appreciate... support.... embrace... ummm.... accept....


but then,
these are the things the very illusive term mean to me.

(I certainly don't pretend to love everyone, BTW.
That seems like a rather silly and impossible goal.)
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member

When you love somebody,
you actually love them--
"them" being "who they actually are".

Lack of acceptance makes one unable to *love what is there*.


*love as in.... appreciate... support.... embrace... ummm.... accept....


but then,
these are the things the very illusive term mean to me.

(I certainly don't pretend to love everyone, BTW.
That seems like a rather silly and impossible goal.)

Now this isn't the greatest of examples, but let's take a parent whose son has become a murderer.

Sure, they may not accept the path their child has taken but by no means do they love him any less than any other parent loves their child.

One can still love another even if they don't fully accept them for who they are.
 
All you need is love..the Beatles..

God is love...1 John 4:18

Is forgiveness, love, acceptance..the final answers...??

Love is important. But you can't live on love alone. At least I've never seen anyone who has done it.
The things you listed are good, but over-rated many times.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
a love that forgives, and in most cases embraces, that accepts the differences in the other person.
All things in moderation, for sure. That said, I am concerned about how people could set themselves up, psychologically, for failing to be loving enough or failing to be forgiving enough... etc... and the unnatural guilt that such unrealistic expectations could foster.
 
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