Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Bernie Sanders. He is the only congressional member in office whose name does not have a dreadful R or D attached to it.
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Hillary Clinton's Use of Personal Email Account (only) for Secretary of State Business
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esmith
Veteran Member
Well you are correct he is not a Republican or a Democrat, he is listed as a Independent but in all fairness shouldn't he be listed as Bernie Sanders (S)where S=Socialist?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
[QUOTE="esmith, post: 4228043, member: 24621" Are you really sure you want someone with this type of character flaw as your President? I sure don't.[/QUOTE]
You plan on most likely voting Republican then? If you're thinking about it doing so, which of the potential candidates do you think doesn't have a "character flaw", as you call it?
You plan on most likely voting Republican then? If you're thinking about it doing so, which of the potential candidates do you think doesn't have a "character flaw", as you call it?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, you planning on probably voting Republican, can I assume from this? So, which candidate would you like to see, and is (s)he free of any "character flaws"?
BTW, a while back you said you really aren't a Republican, but now it appears that you are, so maybe you can explain this discrepancy while you're at it?
esmith
Veteran Member
Depends on the Libertarian candidate and their platform and objectives. Would prefer a Ross Perot style candidate. I will be honest with you, if I do not see a candidate that has a platform or objectives I agree with I would have to take the lesser of two evils and that would not be Hillary.So, you planning on probably voting Republican, can I assume from this? So, which candidate would you like to see, and is (s)he free of any "character flaws"?
BTW, a while back you said you really aren't a Republican, but now it appears that you are, so maybe you can explain this discrepancy while you're at it?
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I doubt the lesser of 2 evils would ever be....
From CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS for HILLARYabstract said:
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I actually liked Perot and thought about voting for him, and I especially agreed with his projection that passing NAFTA would create a "giant sucking sound" of businesses moving out of this country-- and he was correct. So, if you also agreed with him, then I'm afraid you're not likely to vote Republican because I see not one of their potential candidates that has been inclined to roll back NAFTA or GATT, and most appear to be for the PTA as far as I can tell.
It looks like it's being reported that some of the emails on Clinton's personal server have been found to have been "Top Secret" Classified information at the time she received them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/u...ation-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/u...ation-was-in-hillary-clintons-email.html?_r=0
Given that Ross Perot started up possibly the most unethical software services company in the world, I found his moralizing distasteful in the extreme. I will declare a conflict of interest here: were it not for EDS's lying & lack of any kind of moral standards, I'd be a wealthy sort of chap. It might have been more tolerable if they were competent, but sadly he built a multi-billion empire around getting others to pay for their inability to write working software, combined with a very good legal department.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ya, and I didn't vote for him, but he was correct about the "great sucking sound" of jobs leaving the U.S. because of NAFTA.
The AP is reporting that Hillary Clinton's server had emails classified emails ranked higher than Top Secret.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-beyond-top-secret/ar-BBorhZI?ocid=spartandhp
From the article:
'McCullough sent the letter in response to inquiries from congressional committees.
"To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one (intelligence community) element," the letter said. "These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret and top secret/sap levels."
Intelligence officials say that special access programs are more classified than just top secret because they are about highly sensitive programs and could reveal sources of information.'
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-beyond-top-secret/ar-BBorhZI?ocid=spartandhp
From the article:
'McCullough sent the letter in response to inquiries from congressional committees.
"To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one (intelligence community) element," the letter said. "These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret and top secret/sap levels."
Intelligence officials say that special access programs are more classified than just top secret because they are about highly sensitive programs and could reveal sources of information.'
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esmith
Veteran Member
care to refute the above statement???? I doubt it.
from: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
tytlyf
Not Religious
esmith
Veteran Member
As far as concede the answer is no. That is what the FBI is investigating and what the DOJ will do with their report.
As far as part of your response you supplied this:
I am assuming that you copied and pasted that from https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
I suggest you reference the source of a article when you quote it. Something about legality?
However the State Department disagrees with the Hillary explanation.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/ig-report-on-clintons-emails/
Now find some other way to spin and dodge
More Clinton emails surface that were State Department business, and not turned over by Clinton when she said she turned them all over: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...g-some-she-deleted/ar-AAhGTmh?ocid=spartanntp
"The emails were not among the 55,000 pages of work-related messages that Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence. They include a March 2009 message where the then-secretary of state discusses how her official records would be kept.
"I have just realized I have no idea how my papers are treated at State," Clinton wrote to Abedin and a second aide. "Who manages both my personal and official files? ... I think we need to get on this asap to be sure we know and design the system we want...
...Clinton never used a government account that was set up for her, instead continuing to rely on her private server until leaving office in 2013. Though Clinton's work-related emails were government records, she didn't turn over copies until more than 30 lawsuits were filed, including one by The Associated Press."
"The emails were not among the 55,000 pages of work-related messages that Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence. They include a March 2009 message where the then-secretary of state discusses how her official records would be kept.
"I have just realized I have no idea how my papers are treated at State," Clinton wrote to Abedin and a second aide. "Who manages both my personal and official files? ... I think we need to get on this asap to be sure we know and design the system we want...
...Clinton never used a government account that was set up for her, instead continuing to rely on her private server until leaving office in 2013. Though Clinton's work-related emails were government records, she didn't turn over copies until more than 30 lawsuits were filed, including one by The Associated Press."
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Except that former SoS's did the same. I could see where it would make life a bit easier using your personal mail rather then a new government account. At one time I was using 4 separate emails. One for scouts, one personal, one for my photography business and the last for my full time job. Confusing as heck.
esmith
Veteran Member
This is the Washington Post painting a picture of Hillary's imperious disregard for legally required procedures.