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Are we truly seeking answers, or do we just want to get into an argument?

AiR

Member
Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose? Are we actually seeking the truth? Are we looking for the right answers? Are we actually listening? At times, someone might be speaking a lot of sense, but we are prejudiced. We have already made up our mind and because we are being judgmental, we are unable to see the truth and thus our seeking fails.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers. A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.

AiR
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Agree with most of that, personally find:

'In this world full of lies; it is far easier to establish the fallacy in a subject first, before trying to establish the truth, built upon lies.'

So when it is possible we're in a world full of delusion (Maya), everything is upside down; therefore if a majority accept it, it is often the opposite. :innocent:

♢ "It's about finding the diamonds in the crap..." It takes allot of pressure to make a diamond; some allow the pressure to make them crack and some become dull like coal, with allot just staying part of the crap. ♦

♥ A diamond doesn't reflect (love), it refracts and produces rainbows; so only when we let go of all reflections, can we become unconditionally loving. ♥

☸ What some see as crap, can become another's food... So be aware that what we eat, isn't the same old crap gone hard and become coal; instead look for the sharp ones, who often say stuff that can cut. ☸
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I think we humans are mostly motivated by desire for pleasure and avoidance of pain. This often translates into a desire for the pleasures of being entertained, as the OP mentions. And one of the ways in which this can be seen is that, for many of us, something is considered "true" if we simply feel it is right, correct, or true -- and especially if it gives us some kind of comfort or pleasure -- rather than if it is backed by a weight of reasoning and evidence. Even our search for purpose and meaning can be viewed in this light. Why do we search? Is it not so very often that we hope to escape suffering and obtain some sort of comfort and pleasure by finding a purpose or meaning to our lives?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'm all ears. It is just such a rare occaison that someone comes out with something truly profound. The reality is that the vast majority of what we encounter is simply amusing twaddle.


For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.
Not to nitpick too much, but if one takes the old adage literally, then yes, it does become problematic as nothing is perfect. Following the idea literally would likely lead to OCD. Fortunately, the adage has never been meant literally and is simply meant for people to achieve a level of proficiency in a given skill that is "good enough".
 
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Burl

Active Member
The meaning of life is entertainment. Wouldn't a ghost give it's eye teeth to feel the pleasure of taking a bath?
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Too little practice makes one only partially competent.
Too much practice makes one waste much time on minuscule improvements.
Practice in moderation makes one competent enough to know when enough is enough, given who its for, etc.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I say about 10% of the time it's genuine questions, but the other 90% it's looking for debate, subtle or sneaky proseltysing, demonstrating how much you know about something you know nothing about, or some other reason.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing.
I don't think saying most people consider life as entertainment is entirely valid. I think people see life and their own mortality as terrifying and seek to distract themselves from facing this is more realistic. Entertainment is just one of many forms of avoidance one can throw themselves into if they are running from the mouth of the lion standing outside the door.

If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.
I wouldn't say it's this, but rather something that requires actual effort on their part, doing the hard work of facing ourselves is seen as something to be avoided. Distractions are easier.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers.
This wanting answers itself can be a seen as a form of distraction. A true seeker, gives up this search of trying to grasp the Infinite with his mind, and simply rests from all his seeking within his own being. This is the end of both avoidance and of seeking for answers.

A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.
Questioning what we've assume to be true is the beginning of the path of realizing that there is no right or wrong to find, no answers to cling to and say you have arrived. Questioning all that activity itself and then simply giving up is when you move beyond the questions themselves. You realize Truth was not within the questions you were asking and seeking answers for.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie?
No, not all of us took it literally.

Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.
It's good you realize this. Imperfection is perfection. The goal is not something outside ourselves to achieve, but to simply develop and become who we are, in all our wonderful flaws. :)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Most people consider life as entertainment. Instead of finding the true meaning and purpose of life, they do everything else that is fun, interesting, and intriguing. If something is boring and time consuming and it requires a lot of patience, then it’s not their cup of tea.

But then, what exactly is our purpose? Are we actually seeking the truth? Are we looking for the right answers? Are we actually listening? At times, someone might be speaking a lot of sense, but we are prejudiced. We have already made up our mind and because we are being judgmental, we are unable to see the truth and thus our seeking fails.

A true seeker is open-minded. A true seeker wants answers. A true seeker listens, sees, and goes beyond the ordinary. A true seeker has heard something a hundred times. But when he hears something new that contradicts what he has heard over and over in the past for the first time, he doesn’t discount it as untrue. He stops to contemplate, introspect, and evaluate whether what he has been taught all his life is right or wrong.

For instance, we have been taught that practice makes perfect. All of us believe that practice makes perfect, but is it not a big lie? Practice can never make perfect. Practice can only lead to improvement and more practice means more improvement. Still, we are taught that practice makes perfect, and we believe it! It is time to stop believing and start seeking. It is time to understand the truth of who we are, what we are, and what we are not.

AiR

I think the vast majority would like to really and sincerely comprehend and understand, yet there tends to be a propensity for mental stimulation, aka mind masturbation that creates the various platforms from where debate and discussion starts and ends. It seems instinctive to do that in face of things that we can't approach or understand.

Maybe it's a good thing much as the converse with various exchanges and opinion, ludicrous and inventive as those can seem at times, still helps widens horizons and perspectives while we remain alive and enabled to sort things out.

;0)
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I think the vast majority would like to really and sincerely comprehend and understand, yet there tends to be a propensity for mental stimulation, aka mind masturbation that creates the various platforms from where debate and discussion starts and ends. It seems instinctive to do that in face of things that we can't approach or understand.

Maybe it's a good thing much as the converse with various exchanges and opinion, ludicrous and inventive as those can seem at times, still helps widens horizons and perspectives while we remain alive and enabled to sort things out.

;0)

Plus its fun to transform someone into a sputtering gelatinous mass through witty and thoughtful mind games.
 
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