Callisto
Hellenismos, BTW
INot surprising considering the majority of voters didn't want him in.
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INot surprising considering the majority of voters didn't want him in.
Most of them likely living in urban environments dependent on the Socialist Democrats handouts.The majority of U.S. voters didn't vote for Trump in the first place. So it's hardly surprising that they don't want him, now.
I was thinking the other day, maybe polls are dangerous for a proper democracy?
Then how is it, that as the polls predicted, Hillary got a few handfuls more votes than Trump?whatevs
Then he didn't "win", he was appointed.Sorry, but as much as I dislike Trump he did win. We do not have a popular vote for the President.
This has nothing to do with what anyone likes or dislikes in the Constitution. When people go to the polls they are voting for who they want to be president from among the lousy choices they are being presented. But because the system has been rigged to ignore their wishes, their wishes have often been ignored. As they were ignored in the last presidential election. The fact that some people, like yourself, don't care about this so long as they get "their way" doesn't mean everyone feels that way, or that it's just, or fair, or acceptable. And it doesn't mean that Trump "won" the election. Because he didn't. Hillary did. Obama did. Bush did not. Clinton did. ... See the pattern, here?The cons dont like the constitution when it dont go their way,
so fair is fair if you feels that way when it dont go yours
You don't understand how that "system" works, then. In some states the "electors" can simply ignore the popular vote as they please, and in other states they cannot. Meanwhile, the number of electoral votes they wield is based on land mass rather than on population, so that an individual citizen's vote in a sparsely populated state influences the electoral vote more heavily than an individual citizen's vote in a more populated state. The end result being that the relationship between one citizen's actual vote to an electoral vote varies from state to state between being meaningless, to being less than, equal to, or greater than the votes of other citizen's in other states, respectively.The EC did not '"ignore the popular" vote. The delegates from the states that Trump won (emphasize "WON") voted with the popular vote of their states. This system has been in effect for well over 200 hundred years...you had plenty of time to voice your opposition before now.
Nope, just as in football where what matters is how often one scores, not how many yards one earns, what matters in a Presidential election is the number of electoral votes won.Then he didn't "win", he was appointed.
Then "the game" isn't democratic, anymore.Nope, just as in football where what matters is how often one scores, not how many yards one earns, what matters in a Presidential election is the number of electoral votes won.
This has nothing to do with what anyone likes or dislikes in the Constitution. When people go to the polls they are voting for who they want to be president from among the lousy choices they are being presented. But because the system has been rigged to ignore their wishes, their wishes have often been ignored. As they were ignored in the last presidential election. The fact that some people, like yourself, don't care about this so long as they get "their way" doesn't mean everyone feels that way, or that it's just, or fair, or acceptable. And it doesn't mean that Trump "won" the election. Because he didn't. Hillary did. Obama did. Bush did not. Clinton did. ... See the pattern, here?
Then "the game" isn't democratic, anymore.
Sadly, millions of Americans are willing to sacrifice democracy just so 'their team' can win. And the result is that no one wins, and we just keep sinking deeper and deeper into the mire of greed, ignorance, and stupidity.
You don't understand how that "system" works, then. In some states the "electors" can simply ignore the popular vote as they please, and in other states they cannot. Meanwhile, the number of electoral votes they wield is based on land mass rather than on population, so that an individual citizen's vote in a sparsely populated state influences the electoral vote more heavily than an individual citizen's vote in a more populated state. The end result being that the relationship between one citizen's actual vote to an electoral vote varies from state to state between being meaningless, to being less than, equal to, or greater than the votes of other citizen's in other states, respectively.
Yep. And former representative Joe Scarborough (R-Fl) said two days ago that a recent survey of Republican voters have it that they elevate Trump over the Constitution itself. Unfortunately, I missed where that poll was from.Then "the game" isn't democratic, anymore.
Sadly, millions of Americans are willing to sacrifice democracy just so 'their team' can win. And the result is that no one wins, and we just keep sinking deeper and deeper into the mire of greed, ignorance, and stupidity.
If you have a better term than herd, or mob, mentality
lets by all means hear it.
I dont specialize in caring what others think about me.You have an egregious attitude.
And I mean that in the most etymologically correct way.
Outstanding !
Standing outside the herd.
Not so gregarious.
Which now means very very bad.
Hmmm....the herd has spoken.
Polls should be banned.
In America, almost every discussion that appears in the media based on polls is pure noise, yet they dominate the news cycle. Almost every story would be better replaced with "election still too close to call", "no evidence of change in voter preferences after debate".
Coverage gets distorted away from issues and towards purely fictional narratives that might influence voter behaviour as they are presented as neutral fact not subjective fantasy.
Studies have also shown polls actually reduce people's faith in the political system. Elections are framed in terms of the horse-race, not the policies, and this causes people to see politicians as self-serving and manipulative (even though this is not necessarily wrong ) making people more disillusioned regarding democracy.
I dont specialize in caring what others think about me.