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Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
You cry a lack of evidence, but that is a bold faced lie.
Evidence has been presented that shows you are just flat out wrong.
Your choosing to ignore the evidence that shows you are flat out wrong does not make said evidence disapear.
Please provide your post # where you provided the 100% correct evidence.
Regards
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Please provide your post # where you provided the 100% correct evidence.
Regards
So you can ignore it all again?
Why would anyone bother?
You ignored it several times already.
Now you are merely revealing your dishonesty.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So you can ignore it all again?
Why would anyone bother?
You ignored it several times already.
Now you are merely revealing your dishonesty.
In other words there is no such post. It is OK with me, there is no compulsion. Have a good day, please
Regards
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
In other words there is no such post. It is OK with me, there is no compulsion. Have a good day, please
Regards
Again with dismissing that which you do not want to hear.
There are numerous posts in numerous threads.
As you well know.

Sad your faith is so weak.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?

No one did provide a complete and with consensus list with 100% accurate evidence. Did one? Please
If yes, please mention the post number.
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What would entitle you to ask "100% accuracy"?

Do you have 100% accuracy of anything?

At first glance that sure feels like an attempt to misdirect people away from the evidence that you are presented.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
Sometimes or even often while a discussion is proceeding reasonably, an issue comes in between that could derail the discussion.
This happened with the thread "Was Islam spread by the sword?" where I and many other friends discuss the topic. Some of the friends here contend that Islam spread by the sword while I maintain that Islam spread peacefully in the world, yet they stress their viewpoint. I requested them to provide a complete list of countries where they contend Islam spread by the sword. Somehow they are reluctant to provide any such complete list.
Hence I have started this thread.
Atheists or Theists to provide such list (in terms of Post #2) with their evidences, if any, please

Regards
Try this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

Muhammad was a warlord himself. If that doesn't show Islam isnt a religion of peace then i dont know what will.
 

cambridge79

Active Member
im pretty Sure Paarsurrey is the kind of guy who would not blush a little bit when telling you how muslims reached as far as the city of Tours in france ( where charles the hammer kicked their asses ) just giving away pies and big smiles.
You have to wonder why they were there with a full 80.000 people army if only pies and big smiles were sufficient to obtain the love of the locals.

or maybe Paarsurrey is just relying on the fact that muslims weren't actually using swords but scimitars
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
Just find one act of violence done my Muhammad while he spent first 13 years of his ministry in Mecca out of 23 years total . That would be enough. Will one? Please
Regards

What's next? Show you evidence that he acted violently before he was ten years old? Why does that matter? He was a warlord; it doesn't matter when he did his violence. He did a significant amount consistently in the name of Islam and spreading his religion.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I'm a Baha'i not a Muslim and even I know that Muhammad was the most gentle, kind, loving and compassionate Person one could ever imagine. For 13 years of persecution He didn't lift a finger but fled to Medina where people accepted Him as a peacemaker. Then He permitted self defense others wise GENOCIDE would have occurred.
 

cambridge79

Active Member
I'm a Baha'i not a Muslim and even I know that Muhammad was the most gentle, kind, loving and compassionate Person one could ever imagine. For 13 years of persecution He didn't lift a finger but fled to Medina where people accepted Him as a peacemaker. Then He permitted self defense others wise GENOCIDE would have occurred.
Why would have Allah permitted that?
I mean, the god of the Jews opened the red sea to let his people escape.
The god of Christians let his son die because he knew that sacrifice was necessary for his words to spread. Jesus was persecuted too
And he didn't run or fight back, he actually got killed, yet we have today more Christians than Muslims. So the genocide excuse dont stand .

How comes the god of Muslims wasn't even able to settle the situation without asking his prophet, which as you said was the most peaceful and compassionate being so not the more appropriate for the job, to go full war with the meccans, especially considering he is all powerful and is supposedly a god of peace?
Why not picking Something like the old trick of the plagues used back in the days against the Egyptians to make the meccans stop? It all Seems so odd and fishy.
 
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
That's how God chose to do it. God did not want war so He instructed Muhammad to only use self defense as a last resort.
 

cambridge79

Active Member
That's how God chose to do it. God did not want war so He instructed Muhammad to only use self defense as a last resort.
If god didn't want war god had the power to stop it, actually he had the power to prevent it from starting. Just send and angel on Mecca to scare them or one of those things he used to do all the times in the old testament. So still doesn't make sense to me. If god allowed war to happen its because that was part of god s plan. So it doesn't make sense to deny Muhammad was a warrior
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
We determine the fate of our own destiny. God doesn't force us to choose good. It's our decision. But only our bodies die. We live on after death so we have to live with the thought of how we lived here. Some will rejoice others will have deep regret. I want to be happy that I did everything in my life here to spread love and universal brotherhood.
 
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