Bunyip
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Who are you talking about?Isn't it wonderful how people who don't practice a religion can contradict those who've practiced it all their lives?
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Who are you talking about?Isn't it wonderful how people who don't practice a religion can contradict those who've practiced it all their lives?
If the Tao were divine, that would mean that it's not mundane. If the Tao were a god, then it wouldn't be anything that's not a god. That's too limited.Where does it say the Tao is non divine, by my definition, a spiritual force who penetrates the whole universe would be a God. Or do you mean non Abrahamic God, by non Theistic??
You added the word spiritual.Where does it say the Tao is non divine, by my definition, a spiritual force who penetrates the whole universe would be a God. Or do you mean non Abrahamic God, by non Theistic??
You added the word spiritual.
Again I would counter that the Tao as presented in the Tao te Ching is anything but mundane, and while your definition of a God may not fit with the Tao, mine does.
Everything about the Tao te Ching seems to be pointing to the Tao as the non physical part of nature, which would be the spiritual part, which is only evident through its influence on the physical, it certainly doesn't appear to be non spiritual.
There is no god in Tao, not sure what is confusing you about that.I don't see any problem, since my definition of what God really is is the Tao, trying to convince me that the Tao is not God by my definition isn't going to work, The Tao obviously isn't God by your definition. Its all a matter of how you define God. Assuming we have any good understanding of what the Tao is.
Sure Lyndon, same goes for every single word, term and concept in every language on earth. If you define it differently it means something different. That's nota useful argument I'm afraid.There is the Tao, whether the Tao is a term for God or not depends completely on your definition of God
Gee thanks for the assumptions buddy. As it happens I attended a Tao temple and was initiated in Taoism in a formal ceremony some years ago. There is no god in Taoism.and your understanding of what the Tao is, for that matter. I can pretty much imagine of your an atheist and someone tells you that Tao is theistic in nature, you would have to attack that, maybe for no good reason other than you have to deny any God. So in essence you are denying the Tao, also.
I don't see any problem, since my definition of what God really is is the Tao, trying to convince me that the Tao is not God by my definition isn't going to work, The Tao obviously isn't God by your definition. Its all a matter of how you define God. Assuming we have any good understanding of what the Tao is.
Actually, the Tao Te Ching explicitly says the Tao is like a bellows.Everything about the Tao te Ching seems to be pointing to the Tao as the non physical part of nature, which would be the spiritual part, which is only evident through its influence on the physical, it certainly doesn't appear to be non spiritual.
The Tao is like a bellows: it is empty yet infinitely capable. The more you use it, the more it produces; the more you talk of it, the less you understand. Hold on to the center.
The Tao wouldn't care if we thought about it as god or not god?
The Taoism (at least outside of China) is definitively non-theistic! The Tao is seen as a non-divine force who penetrates the whole Universe.
The Tao wouldn't care if we thought about it as god or not god?