Do you believe our world is a domain of the devil?
If yes, write why you think so
If no, write why you think so
If yes, write why you think so
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Who is the creator of this World?
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No, because evil (as in the worst behaviours, and supposedly coming from such - the devil) can be explained quite satisfactorily without the need for such a concept. Even if such is a handy concept for those espousing certain beliefs (mostly religious ones) - as a target and label to use against others.
None of the poll choices reflect my views.
The world is my domain.
The world is my domain.
There are around 3800 creator gods that have been throughout history or are being worshiped today.
I have added the option.
''The glory of the transcendent is made manifest in a heavenly world of light. In the classic literature of gnostic wisdom this exalted world is often called the pleroma or fullness of god, and the inhabitants of this world are called aeons or eternal realms. The first of the aeons is usually the divine mother. For Simon Magus she is Helena, or ennoia, the thought of God. In the Secret Book of John she is Barbelo, or pronoia, the first thought or forethought of God. Thunder, in the text by that name, has certain similarities as well.
Sometimes the transcendent father and the divine mother produce a child in spiritual love. Often the aeons are identified as spiritual attributes of the divine, are given names, and are joined together as couples, spiritual lovers in the fullness of the divine. In the Mandaean divine world the great life is surrounded by other lives and a host of Jordans, or heavenly waters; in the
Manichaean kingdom of light the father of greatness is surrounded by aeons and 144 aeons of aeons; and in the Mother of Books the exalted king is surrounded by seas, angels, lights, and colors.
In the Mandaean divine world the great life is surrounded by other lives and a host of Jordans, or heavenly waters; in the Manichaean kingdom of light the father of greatness is surrounded by 12 aeons and 144 aeons of aeons; and in the Mother of Books the exalted king is surrounded by seas, angels, lights, and colors.
Among the aeons and manifestations of the divine is often a figure who represents the divine in this world, fallen from the light above yet present as the light of God with us and in us. In many gnostic texts this is the figure called Sophia or wisdom, as mentioned above. In Valentinian traditions two forms
of wisdom are evident, a higher wisdom called Sophia and a lower wisdom called Achamoth. Wisdom is closely linked to Eve in the creation stories, and Eve is portrayed as the mother of the living and a revealer of knowledge. Wisdom may also be linked to the gnostic revealer, and wisdom may take part in the process of salvation. In the Gospel of John and other texts the divine logos,
or word, plays a similar role. Such is also the case with Ruha, the spirit, in Mandaean texts, and perhaps Salman, including great Salman and lesser Salman, in the Islamic Mother of Books.
As noted, the demiurge or creator of this world is commonly distinguished from the transcendent deity in gnostic texts. The demiurge is ignorant, tragic, megalomaniacal. In the Secret Book of John he is depicted as the ugly child of Sophia, snakelike in appearance, with the face of a lion and eyes flashing like
bolts of lightning. He is named Yaldabaoth, Sakla, Samael, and he is the chief archon and an arrogant, jealous god. In the Gospel of Truth error behaves like the demiurge, for it becomes strong and works in the world, but erroneously.
Similar, too, are the actions of nature in the Paraphrase of Shem, Ptahil in Mandaean literature, the five evil archons in Manichaean literature, Azazi'il in the Mother of Books, and Lucifer or Satan among the Cathars.
The gnostic revealer awakens people who are under the spell of the demiurge.
Within a Jewish context the gnostic revealer is Seth, the child of Adam and Eve, or Derdekeas, probably Aramaic for "male child," or the first thought or the afterthought or the wisdom of the divine. Within a Christian context the revealer is Jesus the anointed, within a Manichaean context Jesus of light, as well as others.''
-Gnostic Bible by Marvin Meyer
Sometimes the transcendent father and the divine mother produce a child in spiritual love. Often the aeons are identified as spiritual attributes of the divine, are given names, and are joined together as couples, spiritual lovers in the fullness of the divine. In the Mandaean divine world the great life is surrounded by other lives and a host of Jordans, or heavenly waters; in the
Manichaean kingdom of light the father of greatness is surrounded by aeons and 144 aeons of aeons; and in the Mother of Books the exalted king is surrounded by seas, angels, lights, and colors.
In the Mandaean divine world the great life is surrounded by other lives and a host of Jordans, or heavenly waters; in the Manichaean kingdom of light the father of greatness is surrounded by 12 aeons and 144 aeons of aeons; and in the Mother of Books the exalted king is surrounded by seas, angels, lights, and colors.
Among the aeons and manifestations of the divine is often a figure who represents the divine in this world, fallen from the light above yet present as the light of God with us and in us. In many gnostic texts this is the figure called Sophia or wisdom, as mentioned above. In Valentinian traditions two forms
of wisdom are evident, a higher wisdom called Sophia and a lower wisdom called Achamoth. Wisdom is closely linked to Eve in the creation stories, and Eve is portrayed as the mother of the living and a revealer of knowledge. Wisdom may also be linked to the gnostic revealer, and wisdom may take part in the process of salvation. In the Gospel of John and other texts the divine logos,
or word, plays a similar role. Such is also the case with Ruha, the spirit, in Mandaean texts, and perhaps Salman, including great Salman and lesser Salman, in the Islamic Mother of Books.
As noted, the demiurge or creator of this world is commonly distinguished from the transcendent deity in gnostic texts. The demiurge is ignorant, tragic, megalomaniacal. In the Secret Book of John he is depicted as the ugly child of Sophia, snakelike in appearance, with the face of a lion and eyes flashing like
bolts of lightning. He is named Yaldabaoth, Sakla, Samael, and he is the chief archon and an arrogant, jealous god. In the Gospel of Truth error behaves like the demiurge, for it becomes strong and works in the world, but erroneously.
Similar, too, are the actions of nature in the Paraphrase of Shem, Ptahil in Mandaean literature, the five evil archons in Manichaean literature, Azazi'il in the Mother of Books, and Lucifer or Satan among the Cathars.
The gnostic revealer awakens people who are under the spell of the demiurge.
Within a Jewish context the gnostic revealer is Seth, the child of Adam and Eve, or Derdekeas, probably Aramaic for "male child," or the first thought or the afterthought or the wisdom of the divine. Within a Christian context the revealer is Jesus the anointed, within a Manichaean context Jesus of light, as well as others.''
-Gnostic Bible by Marvin Meyer
exchemist
Veteran Member
I've reported this post for preaching.
Do as you like. It's a quote from the book.
No devil.
I'm not an autotheist per se, but I appreciate the addition.
Viker
Häxan
Nuh uh! The world is my domain! I called it first. Way back on July 16, 1976. "The world belongs to me, it's all mine." Then I stuck a stick in the ground but mom called me in for supper. So even the ruler of the world has to answer to some higher authority, I suppose. Supper was delicious that night.
You can have it. I wasn't all that attached to it anyway.
Viker
Häxan
I'm looking for a way off of it. I can't ride a motorcycle into space. I hate physics.You can have it. I wasn't all that attached to it anyway.
Probably for the best. You might find it hard to breathe out there. Physics is your friend...at least until you lose your balance...
Colt
Well-Known Member
Lucifer was deluded to think that he could ever launch a rebellion and make himself God. Faith that Lucifer is "god of this world" is a strange thing!
PureX
Veteran Member
Actually there's only one. There's just 3800 different names for it.
Nope, definitely more than 1, some worshiped before big G was even though of, some worshiped in places big G never went until fairly recently snd that includes the US.
Here is a very incomplete list...
Category:Creator gods - Wikipedia
I voted "I'm not sure." Who actually knows this stuff? And how do they know?
Years of study of the scholars here at RF.