Zero Flu Deaths

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Yes.

The news last May or June that flu was reduced by 90% or more in the Southern Hemisphere (during their own flu season) was something that caught my attention.

Got a link to share?

 

[halbhh]

Got a link to share?

There were many, but here are a couple I just searched up:

May: Australia sees huge decrease in flu cases due to coronavirus measures

July: Flu in the Southern Hemisphere has 'practically disappeared.'

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm thinking it could also be extroverts who are going stir-crazy and are starting to lose it.

Which is most people and normal behavior to being isolated and restricted. Most people like socializing and going places.

 

[Revoltingest]

Or.... they listed it as a Covid death because they found Covid. as well as flu. It seems quite unusual that Washington can have Covid deaths but you can’t get the flu. Doesn’t even sound statistically possible let alone logically.

The posted claims say that no one died from the flu.
Not that no one got the flu. So people could've had
it...they just didn't die from it....which is typical.

 

[crossfire]

There were many, but here are a couple I just searched up:

May: Australia sees huge decrease in flu cases due to coronavirus measures

July: Flu in the Southern Hemisphere has 'practically disappeared.'

Thanks. Comparing Australia to Washington State: Although Australia (population 25.36 million) has only 3.33 times the population of Washington State (7.615 million) its typical per-capita death rate from influenza is much higher than Washington state's per capita death rate from influenza. According to your article, Australia typically has between 1500-3000 deaths from influenza per year, while Washington state has had a range from 20-296 deaths per year from influenza. That's a huge difference per capita. Since Australia dropped from 1500-3000 deaths down to 92 deaths at the time of the article, it's not surprising to see Washington's influenza death rate drop to zero. Australia's drop in influenza deaths was more dramatic than Washington state's drop.

-source for Washington State history of Influenza deaths-

 

[Kenny]

@crossfire @shunyadragon
It showed up. I had a feeling this argument would get made.

@KenS ; covid is much more virulent then the regular flu, so of course it spread and was caught, unlike the less contagious seasonal flu.
There were no CDC mistypings of deaths to overrepresent covid vs flu stats. It's conspiracy with no proof, nothing more.

Of course the argument is logically used... please note:

You tell me... what is the difference of it being spread from Covid?

 

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Of course the argument is logically used... please note:

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You tell me... what is the difference of it being spread from Covid?

I can tell you the numbers from Washington state:
Typical influenza deaths per year: 20-296
Covid deaths so far: 5,309
The numbers show that there is a huge difference between the two diseases. Covid is much more virulent than influenza, and we are a lot closer to herd immunity for influenza than for Covid. It would also suggest that the social distancing and ppi are more effective against influenza than they are for Covid.

 

[The Hammer]

Of course the argument is logically used... please note:

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You tell me... what is the difference of it being spread from Covid?

The actual virulence and rate of infection differ from the influenza virus and covid (spreads faster). That's as plain as the number of deaths this year between the two groups. Now, no I'm no epidemiologist or doctor, so why one is more infective/virulent than the other is above my pay grade, but part of the disparity is many people get a yearly flu shot.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu

 

[Kenny]

The actual virulence and rate of infection differ from the influenza virus and covid (spreads faster). That's as plain as the number of deaths this year between the two groups. Now, no I'm no epidemiologist or doctor, so why one is more infective/virulent than the other is above my pay grade, but part of the disparity is many people get a yearly flu shot.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu

So, what you are saying is that they are just as viral but the yearly flu shot makes the difference as will the Covid vaccination? Because, certainly if you can get the flu the same way you get Covid and people are getting Covid... logically you could also get the flu. Same droplets, same six feet, same surface contamination.

Which make me wonder... if you can get Covid through the nose and the mouth, can you also get it through the eye ducts? Finger in the eye? or droplet in the eye?

 

[The Hammer]

So, what you are saying is that they are just as viral but the yearly flu shot makes the difference as will the Covid vaccination?

No, what I am saying is that Covid is more virulent and contagious than the average yearly flu. But the reason we have zero deaths for flu is in part due to people getting the flu vaccine, in conjunction with all the mask wearing an handwashing, etc due to covid.

Because, certainly if you can get the flu the same way you get Covid and people are getting Covid... logically you could also get the flu. Same droplets, same six feet, same surface contamination.

Just because something spreads in a similar manner such as covid and influenza (via aerosolized mucus), does not mean the rates of infection will be similar. Only that their mode of spread is comparable.

 

[The Hammer]

Which make me wonder... if you can get Covid through the nose and the mouth, can you also get it through the eye ducts? Finger in the eye? or droplet in the eye?

Yes, you probably can, which is why they recommended not touching ones face as frequently early on. (And even face shields if one really wants to be precautious.)

 

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Ugh! We just opened everything up last week and look at what happened!
Washington state adds over 1,400 new COVID-19 cases in one day