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YouTube Walkout 10th-13th December

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Laika, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. Laika

    Laika Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Jan 2, 2015
    I found information about a "walkout" on Youtube on some of the far left subs on reddit. This is in response to the release of new terms of service which has caused a great deal of concern amongst content creators: “YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube believes, in its sole discretion, that provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable.”

    Here is the full statement from one of those involved (ironically posted on youtube itself), so you know what is going on.

    "Dear Viewers,

    Since we started this channel YouTube has become increasingly hostile towards creators in countless ways. An inhospitable environment for workers is to be expected with a capitalist institution like YouTube. So recent events come as no surprise:

    In the past month, YouTube has introduced new terms of service that will allow them to delete channels for not being "commercially viable." They have also signed an agreement with the FTC over their violation of COPPA, legislation which is intended to protect the privacy of children on the internet. YouTube and the FTC have signed an agreement that needlessly and uselessly puts onus and risk on creators without serving to protect children from data collection by YouTube.

    We, as creators, should be given a voice on YouTube. The relationship we have with this corporation is entirely one-sided, and YouTube is far too heavy-handed and disrespectful and exploitative in how they deal with us.

    It was independent creators who made YouTube the success that it is. Without us, YouTube would be nothing. Without us, they will become nothing. That is why we are walking out.

    Many have said that this walkout is a "waste of time" and that it "won't work." This is a gross misunderstanding of the purpose of this walkout.

    We are not expecting YouTube to cave to our demands for representation and respect. We are not even expecting YouTube to notice us. We are, however, expecting YOU to notice us. We are expecting you to care. We are expecting to build solidarity among creators and viewers who use this platform.

    Rosa Luxembourg, Vladimir Lenin, the Black Panthers, Rudolf Rocker, Ho Chi Minh -- every great leftist leader and thinker of all time agreed that limited, short-term activity helps to build toward longer-term solidarity.

    This is the first step of many. Yes, we need unions and more cohesive organization. Yes, we need more people on board. Yes, we are small and insignificant right now. But we can work together towards something bigger.

    After the walkout, we will do everything we can to sustain this energy and put it towards more permanent organization. And we hope you will join us. For more information and perspectives search for the hashtag #YouTubeWalkout Thank you for your support. We're all in this together!"

    Source Source

    I don't know if you want to join in or if you want to express opinions, but I figured passing the message on was the least I could do.

    Thoughts and comments welcome. Feel free to spread the message on social media if you wish. :)
  2. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
    Premium Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Not being part of reddit, I wondered about this so I did a bit of searching. From what I found, it seems Google is acting like a big corporation (what a surprise) and that as a consequence they might do things we don't like. Google dropped "not being evil" a long time ago.

    Recommended Answer

    That would likely refer to things like
    a) There has been a policy in place for a long time that states that inactive channels (e.g., no videos posted ever and no activity for 6 months can be terminated). As far as I know, this policy (Additional policies - YouTube Help) hasn't been enforced, but it doesn't mean it won't be.

    b) The parent company may at some point in the future decide to shutter YouTube, deleting all accounts.

    c) YouTube may at some point do something like Flickr or Vimeo did--severely limit what you can do with a free account (For example, for Flickr users, if you didn't sign up for their 'Pro' service and had more than 1,000 photos in your account, they deleted all the photos in excess of that number)

    What does "commercially viable" mean? - YouTube Help

    And I went back to the "answer" referenced above and found that refers to being inactive:

    Inactive accounts policy

    In general, users are expected to be active members within the YouTube community. If an account is found to be overly inactive, the account may be reclaimed by YouTube without notice. Inactivity may be considered as:

    • Not logging into the site for at least six months
    • Never having uploaded video content
    • Not actively partaking in watching or commenting on videos or channels
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  3. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Veteran Member

    Nov 7, 2017
    I think that the greatness of their success will match the clarity of their goals.
  4. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Rival's Wife

    Apr 11, 2005
    God is in the Rain
    I care because of the issues at the core of it, but at the same time it seems so meh because it's youtube, which I use about as often as I do Facebook.