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You Can Not Coddle Violent Criminals

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by esmith, Jul 26, 2021.

  1. esmith

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    I sympathize with victims of violent crimes, but disagree with the rhetoric in the article.
     
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    Why, and in what manner?
     
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    I tend to trust the courts' decisions over that of police officers. The article just seems to be some police officer getting all huffy because the police doesn't always get their way.
     
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    Well for one it's grammar is terrible. It's "You cannot coddle violent criminals." it's not "You can not coddle violent criminals.". That sort of little incapacity to follow basic rules doesn't bode well already. Second, being free while awaiting for trial, even for a violent crime, if you paid bail or were deemed at low risk enough (not all violent crimes are equal after since punching a guy in a drunken bar fight and strangling and raping children in their beds are both violent crimes, but one is a serious one while the other not so much) is a fundamental right in free country. Arbitrary detention are the hallmark of a tyranny as are unfair, rushed trials. Though where this police chief is right is that there is a lack of personnel in the Justice system and the COVID restriction have slowed down the process which then causes delays in the application of justice which is also extremely worrisome. The solution though isn't "**** due process and civil liberty; let's cage these animals".
     
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    When one comments on the grammar of others, one should take care to know the difference between "cuddling" and "coddling".
     
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    Well, technically you can cuddle violent criminals. Probably not a good idea though.
     
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    I agree in theory that you can't coddle violent criminals, although sometimes I wonder if cops can tell the difference between a violent criminal and one who is not violent and not offering any resistance.
     
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    It's called making a life or death call in less that a second, around 0.7 seconds
     
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    @esmith what are your personal thoughts regarding the Jan 6th insurrection?
     
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    First what is your reason for asking?
    It was a dissapointing action that should not have happened.
    But, in my mind there were a few instigators that caused a lot of people to do something that they would not normally do. Something like mob mentality.
     
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    As long as the January 6th criminals are not coddled by Trump and the right wing, I'll agree that every violent criminal, politically motivated or not, should be off the streets.
     
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    You mean when they have someone handcuffed and subdued, and they can't think of anything else to do except put their knee on their neck?
     
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    I believe if they had been cuddled more as children they would not have become criminals.
     
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    You do realize the Trump is no longer President don't you. Seems that if he isn't President he has no means to prosecute or not prosecute them.
     
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    What does the police chief mean by "coddling?" Would we achieve better results by punishment, vindictiveness and locking people up?

    If you want to solve a problem it helps to address the causes of the problem. Why are these violent criminals violent criminals? Did we create them? Will we reform them with beatings, arrests and imprisonment? Don't most people come out of American prisons angry, resentful and with less respect for the law and worse social skills than they had before they went in?
    If you treat people like animals, they're going to respond like animals.
     
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    Incorrect grammar pedantry is the worst kind of grammar pedantry.

    Both are fine, grammatically and practically ;)
     
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    Or, if you are suspected of passing phony money the ongoing decision to kill you can last over nine minutes.
     
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    Out in left field again are we.
     
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